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  • #18061

    We are working to resolve issues and will let you know when camping is available again.

    #18067

    What happened ?

    Bille

    #18071

    Apparently , the commoners are not allowed to ask ! LOL

    Bille

    #18072
    Jana Pivkova
    General Member

    Our lease prohibits camping. The lease can be found in the club library, if anyone would like to read it. You have to be logged in to have access to the club library: DWR Lease Docs

    The last communication this club has had (with one of the DWR people currently in charge, something that changes every five years or so) in regard to camping, stated that camping was not allowed. Therefore we cannot have any official club-endorsed camping at this time.

    Although over the years the DWR has been very lenient with us (since we’re such well-behaved lease holders), part of the CSS board’s position is that it’s not worth risking our very inexpensive lease in exchange for camping revenue. -Officially- we should not be encouraging overnight parking at AJX.

    #18075
    John Benario
    General Member

    While I am sure it is disappointing to the campers to be told to pack up, it looks like our new board is actually acting in the best interests of the club.  Thanks to Ed, Jana, and the other board members for their attention to detail.

     

    #18077
    Jana Pivkova
    General Member

    We still want to explore camping options, but first we need to reach out to DWR and make it very clear to them that we do not want public camping in the traditional sense, rather a CSS club members only type of overnight camping. We will let everyone know how that works out, if & when it does.

    #18080

    Thank you for being responsible to ensure the future use of the LZ…

    1. Interrupting camping since not supported by the DWR lease, despite disappointing some.
    2. Trying to reach a proper arrangement with the DWR.
    #19656

    Is camping at ajax allowed now?

    #19660
    Jana Pivkova
    General Member

    Camping at AJX is not allowed at this time. We are still working with the DWR on reinstating it for CSS member pilots only, but unfortunately as of right now there is no news of it re-opening anytime soon. No idea if it will ever be available. It depends on whether or not the DWR will agree to let us bring it back someday.

    #23412
    Scott James
    General Member

    Hi Jana, for annual full-member pilots, how’s the camping situation looking these days?

    #23413
    Jana Pivkova
    General Member

    Hi Scott, I’m not on the CSS board anymore, so I’m not sure what’s going on with the camping situation, but it probably hasn’t changed. Last I heard, the official stance is that it’s not allowed due to our land lease holder’s rules (the DWR). Maybe Luke or Jamie can elaborate further, if anything has changed.

    #23436

    Respectfully,

    I may be missing something, but that link to the lease expired in 10-2014.  In that referenced lease (albeit expired), I see no reference to “no Camping”.

    More information or an explanation would help validate the statement “camping is no longer permitted”.

    #23437
    Scott James
    General Member

    So I guess a practical question for the folks on the ground there every day: are you seeing people camping there on a regular basis?
    I am a full annual member, if that makes a difference; would just be handy to stay at the LZ and be right there for a week or so :-)

    #23448

    Camping is not allowed via the lease with DWR not because of what it is written in the lease document, but because Camping requires a permit from San Bernardino County.  We have tried to obtain a permit but the county will not give us one unless we install Greywater and Blackwater systems (plumbing) similar to how most RV Parks are set up.  We explained that we are not intending to have RV style hook-ups and only dry-camping is allowed, but the county has no allowance for that.  They just want the $$$ for the permit and we cannot afford to install Greywater and Blackwater management systems.

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