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August 24, 2023 at 10:29 AM #18780Linda SalamoneGeneral Member
- Any dirt being dumped on the training hill, the landing zone, or parking lot- essentially ANY CSS leased property (and the XC Ranch)- is illegal, will jeopardize our lease, and must immediately cease. If you see trucks dumping on the property please alert a CSS BOD member (besides Dan), inform the truck driver, post it here or on the forum, and take photos if possible.
August 24, 2023 at 5:53 PM #18781Wouldn’t never wanna do anything illegal ; to help improve our club …
WOW , I really Really “Like” the upper training hill launch ; here
is that Damn Dan , test flying my Atos off that dirt dumped hill :
Sorry Linda ; yea I like Dan as much as I like you , young lady !!! :)
Bille
August 25, 2023 at 4:58 AM #18782Tom SwansonGeneral MemberIllegal? Please elaborate. Inquiring mind wants to know.
August 25, 2023 at 8:16 AM #18784Linda SalamoneGeneral Memberillegal
1 of 2adjective
il·le·gal (ˌ)i(l)-ˈlē-gəlSynonyms of illegal
: not according to or authorized by law : UNLAWFUL, ILLICITalso : not sanctioned by official rules (as of a game)August 25, 2023 at 11:25 AM #18785We (the CSS board) have repeatedly asked anyone calling & authorizing truck drivers to dump dirt at the LZ parking lot to stop immediately. We’ve been asking for months for this to stop, but it has not stopped.
Truck drivers were told directly to stop coming to the LZ to dump loads of dirt, but they say that the person told them they own AJX and gave them authorization. Somebody is pretending to be the owner and sole authority, and continues to defy the CSS board’s demands to make it stop.
It is completely unacceptable for any one individual to authorize dirt dumping on this property (AJX or the XC ranch) without CSS board/XC ranch owner approval.
Any alterations to the training hills and use of heavy equipment need to be discussed and authorized by the CSS board first. We are not opposed to LZ improvements. We are opposed to illegal dirt dumping & lack of plan discussion, especially if someone is receiving money in exchange for this privilege. This is unacceptable.
August 26, 2023 at 6:23 AM #18789Jana said :
… Any alterations to the training hills and use of heavy equipment need to be discussed and authorized by the CSS board first. …
I can see your point Jana !!
However as I already stated ; I really like that new upper training a Lot , and I doubt anyone asked the Encore University Hills, LLC, a Delaware Corporation , for permission to put it there ?
Bille
Thanks to Jonathan ; for finding and posting this picture , on another Thread :
August 26, 2023 at 10:09 AM #18790Bille, the developers and neighbors have been very accommodating to us so far. That’s exactly why we need to be careful, so that we don’t attract negative attention from any of them. I think it’s fair to say that we all want what’s best for the club in our own way, however, there are proper ways to go about it.
As a board member and even just as a paying club member, I don’t like to show up at the LZ and not know why there are huge piles of dirt at the base of the PG hill & parking lot area, or pipes running through the parking lot. I’m not even sure who to ask! I have an idea, but I don’t want to cast accusations without solid proof.
As the current vice president, don’t you think I should be one of the first to know why they’re there, who called the trucking company to dump them there and who these trucking companies are? The board as a whole should have this information, so that we can call it off as soon as we think it no longer serves the club in a positive way. No individual member or officer should be able to make these decisions on their own, as they please.
When we ask the people we suspect are responsible for it, we don’t get clear answers. We have asked politely multiple times, but it seems to be getting us nowhere. When we ask these individuals to immediately call off the dumping and it still doesn’t stop, what recourse do we have?
It’s easy to say; “But these people have contributed so much work over the years to make the club better! Let them do whatever they want, whenever they want!” I get it. I too appreciate and respect those people immensely, I’ve benefited from their hard work, I don’t want to damage relationships over these things, but there’s a reason we elect a board of officers every year. They’re supposed to be in charge of scheduling projects, improvements, maintenance, events, insurance, etc. We can still get these nice things done for the club through proper procedure.
The board is supposed to make sure that the lease is safe, that we’re covered as a club, that we play nice with our neighbors and that we’re not endangering the site. Sometimes that means the board has to put a stop to certain activities until those activities have been discussed, planned and approved. In this case the training hills are not on AJX or XC ranch land, but they are in extreme proximity to us and we need to be delicate about how we interact with that land.
I’m begging you, whoever it is that keeps calling these trucks to dump dirt at, or near AJX, please put a stop to it now, before it really gets out of hand. The improvements are just not worth the possible consequences. The training hills are fine as they are, let’s leave it there. Going forward, please discuss all future plans for LZ improvement with the board first. Let’s work on this together.
August 26, 2023 at 1:29 PM #18791Tom SwansonGeneral MemberThis reply is for Linda…
smart-ass
[ˈsmärdˌas]
NOUN
a person who is irritating because they behave as if they know everything:
“for a know-it-all smart-ass like me, it was a humbling experience”ADJECTIVE
irritatingly clever or smug:
“enough with the smart-ass comments”August 26, 2023 at 4:19 PM #18795Jana said :
Bille, the developers and neighbors have been very accommodating to us so far. That’s exactly why we need to be careful, so that we don’t attract negative attention from any of them. I think it’s fair to say that we all want what’s best for the club in our own way, however, there are proper ways to go about it.
Fully agree , and I realize the “Why” I respect you so ; (your not stupid, and you articulate well) !!
On another note — Ya see the tone was when we started with , on this conversation , and how the viewpoints were presented ; it would be nice if everyone in the club could tone down the rhetoric , (including Me) and realize that everyone is different, and everyone has an opinion worth considering , (even if ya don’t like it) !!!
Bille
August 27, 2023 at 8:31 AM #18796Linda SalamoneGeneral MemberBillie,
My original post was a directive, not an opinion. No tone, no rhetoric, no viewpoint. I know it’s sometimes difficult to hear- especially from a woman you told to “bend over more while you pick up the garbage”.
I’m very happy that Jana took the time to elaborate in such a way that you could begin to “hear” the message.Tom wins the smartass award 🥇😉
August 27, 2023 at 7:42 PM #18801Linda said :
…I know it’s sometimes difficult to hear- especially from a woman you told to “bend over more while you pick up the garbage”. …
Two years ago , I used the same context for a similar joke , (Linda should wear a miniskirt , right now) and you laughed at that one !! Also Linda — think back a few months ; you said something to me that would disturb most men and I just laughed at it .
What happened to make you so cold ; is the pressure of the club maybe getting to you ?
No Linda — I will not argue with someone that may be having a bad time of it , at the moment ; I use to be a friend of yours , so I will Back Off .
Bille
August 28, 2023 at 8:21 AM #18802Linda SalamoneGeneral Member“I didn’t objectify you THAT way, I objectified you THIS way, I did it years ago too – Must be something wrong with you to not like it anymore….”
just keep an eye out for dirt loads being dumped, mmmmkay?
August 28, 2023 at 11:59 AM #18805Linda said :
… Must be something wrong with you to not like it anymore….” …
Yea , and I know what it is : My wife Dumped me ; but I’ll get over it , (eventually). :(
Sorry …
Bille
August 28, 2023 at 12:36 PM #18806Linda SalamoneGeneral MemberI’m super sorry you’re going through that. I know it’s been hard on you and you love her very much.
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