Possible TFR this weekend 7-15 & 7-16 and longer?

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July 14, 2023 at 8:19 PM #18546

Alan Coffield
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There are 5 active fires between San Bernardino and San Jacinto city that may result in TFRs this weekend that could affect pilots flying East of Crestline and may shut down any Flying from Soboba or at least North of it. No TFRs posted as of now despite a lot of aerial firefighting traffic thru out the area today. I will try to link here for any TFRs that get posted for tomorrow, but please check on your own before flying this weekend. I believe the sailplane club at Hemet is expecting to be grounded tomorrow (and beyond?) See you in the air, Alan

July 14, 2023 at 9:10 PM #18548

Jerome Daoust
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For those waiting for updates, they can use this to easily find a TFR over a map of our area… SkyVector.

July 14, 2023 at 10:18 PM #18549

Alan Coffield
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First TFR for 7-15-23…. There could be more to follow?

https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_3_6869.html

July 15, 2023 at 12:07 AM #18550

Jerome Daoust
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Using the coordinates (33º53’22″N, 117º04’15″W) provided for the center of that TFR (with a radius of 5 nautical miles) and the distance to Soboba, it puts the launches outside by a safety margin of 2 miles (1.8 nautical mile).

Still a good idea to be conscious of air traffic, and avoid heading West of launches by any significant amount.

July 15, 2023 at 3:08 PM #18552

Alan Coffield
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TFR update:

https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_3_6934.html

July 15, 2023 at 10:16 PM #18556

Jerome Daoust
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Getting closer, but Soboba flight park is still outside…

July 17, 2023 at 12:09 AM #18566

Jonathan Dietch
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TFRs in KML are much easier for me to visualize and plan around.
http://soaringdata.info/tfrs/tfrs.php

The current TFR looks like this…

July 17, 2023 at 12:12 PM #18567

Jerome Daoust
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Nice tool Jonathan. The TFR is continuously evolving (and using new ID’s), now including the Soboba flight park…

Some local roads are closed as well…

July 17, 2023 at 12:21 PM #18568

David Webb
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Since we’ll likely have more this season (and every fire season), I’m going to put a simple tool together that we can punch in a TFR ID, and it will spit out a 3D map with the exclusion area on it. More to follow…

July 17, 2023 at 1:01 PM #18569

Jerome Daoust
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The TFR ID’s change often. For the Rabbit fire near Soboba, it seems to be up to the 3rd ID now. To make the confusion worse they don’t indicate quickly when an old one has been superseded if you just look up that ID. So it may be best to avoid entering an ID which can be obsolete, and instead rely on a search area. This may be challenging, thanks for trying.

The SkyVector tool is almost sufficient, only missing location markers for our flying sites, to know if it is in/out of a TFR

July 17, 2023 at 1:26 PM #18571

David Webb
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Ah – that’s good to know. I thought they just created them once and then updated them. What I may do is try to pull all of the current TFRs for that general area, so one could then just pick from a list (select by the description instead of a specific ID). Depends on how ambitious/bored I am this week.

July 17, 2023 at 2:34 PM #18577

David Webb
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Unless it’s a temporary glitch, this TFR appears to be no longer active. SkyVector and the FAA site no longer show it.

If true, the only thing left to be avoided for the foreseeable future is melting. Forecast for the next 10 days:
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