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  • #21054

    NFS has modified the closure order due to the Line Fire, the closure area is now limited to the fire affected zone and other adjacent threatened areas.

    What does this mean?

    –  AJX and all of the Launches, as well as N240 (Cloudland Truck Trail), are no longer in the closure area.

    – CSS is open for Site Flying.  All Airspace above the modified closure area (east of Hwy 18) is still off limits, so there will be no XC flying eastbound.  You CAN & MAY fly WEST.

    – You can read the full forrest closure order (updated) here.

    – I will post the closure area map below, but here is the link.

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    #21056

    Some additional clarification:

    – Don’t fly east of where Hwy 18 goes up-mountain from San Bernadino to Crestline.  Consider it a longitude and Do Not cross to the east of it.  There is still CAL FIRE aircraft activity and we will not get in their way.  We also do not want the risk of anyone landing out in the fire affected zone (closure area).

    – Further on the above point, DO NOT fly east and claim that you are north of Highway 18 (Rim of the World Scenic Hwy). The two risks previously sated above apply. DON’T DO IT.

    – If you use a launch to the north that that leads to XC routes to the north (Blackhawk), you should be both launching and flying well clear of the closure area.  Be certain that your launch and your intended flight keep you clear of the closure area and at no risk of landing out within the closure area, as long as you accomplish that there should be no issues.

    – When climbing over Marshall peak or behind it and you intend to transition to the back ridge, you must stay west of Hwy 18.  Notice the little dog leg at the far west limit of the closure area? That’s Panorama Point and we all typically fly right over that.  I know it’s hard, but DON’T DO IT.  If you can’t stay west of Hwy 18 completely then don’t attempt flying to the back ridge, stay out front!

    We’ve all been given a chance to continue enjoying free flight at our club despite a major fire, don’t mess it up by attempting to skirt the rules.  There will be eyes on us, so fly safely and make good choices.  Even if someone lands out well clear of the closure area, that can still have negative implications if a rescue is required.  Have fun, but let’s keep it low-key and not take any unnecessary risks.

    #21057
    Dan DeWeese
    General Member
    CSS Instructor

    Luke, help me find the part in the closure order where it mentions the airspace closure departing from the boundaries shown at tfr.faa.gov.Screenshot_20241002-200148_Adblock Browser

    #21058
    Jerome Daoust
    General Member

    This is great news for local schools and businesses, as well as for most pilots who are happy with local flying. “XC hounds” are left wanting more, but overall this is a 90% solution.

    Now can we get some good conditions?

    #21089
    Ken Howells
    General Member

    I had a great half-hour with the PG yesterday.

    Very cool that they lifted the ban on forest use early.

    #21165
    Jerome Daoust
    General Member

    Some are wondering (<– all text in blue are links) if this still needs to be observed, hoping these statements will absolve them:

    We should keep in mind that:

    • Forest closures are independent of current fires and TFR’s, and more based on risk of new fires along with available resources to combat them.
    • We want to stay in good terms with the forest service. While airspace may not be controlled by them, a landing and rescue within a closed area can be detrimental to our relationship. One pilot’s desire to exercise his “rights” can jeopardize school operations and launches staying open for all.

    I prefer to keep it simple and follow club rules, as fun can still be had.

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