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David Webb General MemberDitto on the above.
On Monday, I had never seen so many aircraft in the area. I was in a nice climb at 7k between McK and Harrison, and ended up spiraling down. I looked to the back ridge and noticed a fairly spooky trajectory on an inbound and opted for as much margin as possible. Its heading was almost due south, coming from directly over Lake Arrowhead which looked well outside those 2 approach paths. Noticed the same with several other aircraft during the flight.
Seems like good advice to just keep your head on a swivel if you’re over 6k – no matter where you are along the range.
David Webb General MemberWould be very interested to check out your historical forecast data. In compiling that, were you always recording the forecast data a specific amount of time before the “actual” (for example, did you record the forecast the night before a flying day)? That would definitely factor in.
Purely anecdotal evidence, but it seems like certain models are “better” for certain sites. I’m sure the weather experts here will light me up for this, but my personal opinion for Marshall seems like that when observing in the evening the following day’s conditions, NAM seems to have been close-ish most of the time on top of lift, and tends to underestimate on wind speed (in a few weeks, a moot point since it’s going away); HRRR tends to read both high and low on top of lift (inconsistent) and slightly overestimates wind speed. GFS seems to only be good at ballpark guesstimations many days out on general wind direction (general “will it be flyable” kinda stuff), but not very useful. ICON and RAP I don’t even bother with, as they don’t seem very useful for the site either.
I’ve seen others say this about other sites as well, and I tend to agree, and that’s to take NAM and HRRR and take the worse reading of both (so higher wind speed, and lower TOL), plus hope for agreement with them all (agreement being a better signal of accuracy). I heard that RRFS is trending towards “shooting for the middle” between the 2 so far, but time will tell on that.
Also seems that anytime a significant weather event is nearby (like hurricanes, etc), that messes them all up and you have to take that into account.
Ok – now everyone can tell me how wrong I am on that. :)
David Webb General MemberSmall sample size, but RRFS was pretty close in calling yesterday (when checking the day before). There also seemed to be pretty close agreement on all 3 of the more reliable models (NAM, HRRR, and RRFS).
David Webb General MemberThanks Brian, and love the high tech anti-avian countermeasures.
David Webb General MemberLooks well-fed!
David Webb General MemberTo add, a pic of the burn scar next door (taken on the 4th). Clearly illustrates our standard wind direction.

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David Webb General MemberThanks for your efforts!
David Webb General MemberThat one’s available via Synoptic here:
Ownership name suggests that SC Edison owns it. Also should point out that it only reports in or has data points every 10 minutes, but it can be useful for comparison with the AJX station.
David Webb General MemberI keep this one on my flight deck, plus a small patch of Velcro on the top of my helmet (so I can just flip it on and stick it to my helmet in flight if I ever need it). It’s tiny too:
David Webb General MemberSecond most of that! Probably the roughest flight I’ve had yet.
Unusually rowdy even way out front past the LZ after 4PM. No problem staying up – very buoyant everywhere. Felt like when the down part of the cycle was in effect, there were really nice, medium-strong climbs that went for days, and then when it turned back on again – chaos. Sky gods comin to git ya.
An “educational” day. Weather was very pleasant though.
David Webb General MemberHere’s another one (small unit – last I checked it was receive only, but that should be adequate for early warning):
https://flywithsentry.com/mini
I believe there are a few instrument apps that provide integration with it as well.
David Webb General MemberLooks like you have a general membership already. Send an email to info@crestlinesoaring.org and you can get it converted.
April 17, 2026 at 1:43 PM in reply to: 215 & University Parkway 55-Hour Closure for Final Work 4-17 to 4-20. #23708
David Webb General MemberThanks Ken! You saved me some time tomorrow :)
David Webb General MemberWelcome Tony.
There will be folks flying today, and Sandy will be driving. Link to sign up for a seat here:
https://www.supersaas.com/schedule/flytandem/twovans
For the site intro, I’d recommend showing up to AJX early and ask a fellow pilot for one. Would also recommend reviewing the site guidelines and approach patterns on this site before you go.
Enjoy!
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