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  • in reply to: An Appeal on Behalf of Steve Rousseau #24372
    Jana Pivkova
    General Member

    Jamie,

    Thank you for taking the time to clear things up for those who may still feel like they are in the dark on this issue. I appreciate it.

    To Alan,

    I know who Tim Waltz is, but we’re discussing an individual in California, not Minnesota, who is not a violent offender and who has not been found guilty of a crime in court. We’re discussing someone who has been an ASSET to our club in multiple ways and considered as such by multiple pilot members in good standing with the club. He’s not perfect (who is??), but he is considered one of us.

    We are discussing the board taking actions AGAINST our by law rules. Certain board members are the ones not following the rules, abusing their position and citing legal reasons that don’t exist, as reason for calling the police. I’ve known these people for years, I’ve worked with them before, I am not enjoying having to call them out on their wrong-doing. I am blowing up friendships over this, because wrong is wrong and right is right. I am acting on behalf of multiple members who don’t want to participate here, but feel very much the same as I do.

    You are entitled to your opinion on wrong vs. right, but it would help a great deal if you did have personal experiences with those of us relevant to this discussion. Unfortunately you have to rely on the information here rather than on your own personal experience. Corporate word salad sounds and looks good, but it doesn’t mean it’s rooted in reality. The outcome of this doesn’t affect you the same way as it affects those of us locals who are frequenting AJX multiple times a week for years on end. Now excuse me while I step away for the day and go do some flying with these people.

    in reply to: An Appeal on Behalf of Steve Rousseau #24362
    Jana Pivkova
    General Member

    Alan,

    You’re free to disagree with me. It seems to me you haven’t been around AJX in a long while, you don’t know what my relationships are with these people or what they have shared with me, yet you seem to think you know more about this situation than I do.

    I don’t know what Tim Waltz, or sex offender pardons have to do with anything in this thread. I don’t know why you would presume that I would be in favor of pardoning sex offenders. That’s a strange one.

    in reply to: An Appeal on Behalf of Steve Rousseau #24359
    Jana Pivkova
    General Member

    Thursday, July 9th: Steve entered CSS property around 8:00 PM, which was documented.
    Friday, July 10th: Steve returned to the property around 4:30–5:00 PM to charge his one-wheel under the shade structure.

    The horror!!! Lock him up! Especially after I paid for his club membership, which Luke then decided to void without a hearing (as is required by the club’s by laws and as was correctly pointed out by Rob earlier). So much for following the club rules and making us feel safe!

    Apparently Luke tampered with the LZ cameras without the camera owner’s permission, so that he could surveil the BBQ area from the comfort of his home! He has gathered evidence of pilot members collecting water from the sink into jugs, to possibly hand to Steve. He then accused a pilot member of “stealing” water for the purpose of aiding and abetting this homeless criminal. Mimi should call the non-emergency PD line to file a complaint! We need to keep a record of all the pilot members stealing the LZ’s resources! Luke is making a list and checking it twice.

    When the officers asked during that meeting if I knew where Steve was currently located in the area, I answered their direct question and shared that his RV had been seen parked nearby.

    In other words, he wasn’t on CSS property at the time, but you were prepared to make sure he doesn’t feel safe anywhere.

    We completely understand that members care about Steve and want to help him through personal channels. However, the board’s responsibility remains strictly focused on upholding club rules, protecting Andy Jackson Airpark, and keeping the LZ safe and operational for everyone.

    Allow me to translate. “We understand that most of our paying club members want this person to be allowed back on the property and that our actions are highly unpopular, but we don’t care what you or the lawyers think, we’re smarter than all of you and we will go ahead and press forward. We will continue to ignore your citing of the by laws and ignore the fact that Steve is entitled to a proper hearing before we can take these actions against him. We will also continue to spy on you and frivolously call the police, until we are satisfied. We really want to make sure that our member pilots thoroughly despise us for our actions and start a petition to remove us from our volunteer positions before the next scheduled election”.

    Good news everyone, Luke’s access to the cameras has been suspended by the owner. We can now feel a little safer. Did I mention Luke was entertaining the idea of removing the refrigerator and BBQ from the LZ in order to give Steve less incentive to come on the property? I guess he forgot about the other 300 members who might want to keep their drinks and food cold during their visit, who pay club dues for the privilege. He must have forgotten that we have events which involve cooking food and storing it during 100 degree temperatures.

    As for “upholding club rules”, for some reason one of the board members has been parking his RV at the LZ over night (sometimes over multiple nights in a row) countless times. I’m not sure why there is an exception to his squatting. Maybe because he has an actual house to go back to, so it’s cool? I’d like to make it clear that I have nothing against that board member personally, I’m just pointing out the double standards in Luke’s and Mimi’s selective club rule enforcement. It seems they DO know how to look the other way.

     

     

     

     

    in reply to: An Appeal on Behalf of Steve Rousseau #24351
    Jana Pivkova
    General Member

    Jerome,

    Some people don’t want to get caught up in any potential drama and will therefore never share their true feelings publicly, even if they agree. Sometimes I do wish more people would make their voices heard, but they have their own reasons for staying quiet.

    I’m at a point in my life where doing the right thing is more important than what people will think of me if I say something disagreeable. Maybe that’s just something that came to me sooner than later and I’m not judging anyone who has yet to get there. I used to be a people-pleaser, go along to get along, quiet, didn’t like to make eye contact, etc, but certain abuses simply should not be tolerated. If I see someone doing something wrong and I can attempt to make it right, I’ll do what I can.

    I tried to handle this whole thing privately days before I brought it to the forum. I tried to avoid bringing it to the club members attention to the best of my ability. I don’t need, or want this attention! Unfortunately, some people can’t be reasoned with and I needed to know how others felt. I wanted to know whether I could be the one who was wrong. Posting it to the forum and asking others for their opinions opened up a whole new can of worms, and here we are.

    If someone feels like they’re getting “canceled”, it might be because they allowed it to get to this point by refusing to respect and listen to multiple people along the way. When 2+2=4 and they’re trying to force you to believe that it equals 5, where do you go from there? Maybe in their universe it does equal 5. What can I do, or say to convince them otherwise? Maybe if more people speak up? Sometimes that too has no effect.

    Maybe I’ve gone too far and maybe I regret ever getting involved. Maybe I should just let people do what they’re going to do and mind my own business. Why do I care about what happens to Steve? I could simply pay my club dues, show up, have fun and go home. I’m here to fly!

    Oh,… that’s right,… Steve has been an asset to the flying community, a friend, so I do care what happens to him and I do care about what happens to the club. All I know is that Steve is no threat to the existence of the club, the threat is the individual who chooses to ignore the by laws, doesn’t want to be a team player and abuses the power they think they have. I’d love to think that this could be a wake-up call, but it probably is not.

     

    in reply to: An Appeal on Behalf of Steve Rousseau #24348
    Jana Pivkova
    General Member

    To preserve the momentum, Gene got a new letter warning of violations including smoking and dog leash and the anti Sandy and Dale defamation league’s laws against frank speech.

    Dan,

    It gets even worse. Sandy NEVER said to them that Gene was bothering her. She never complained and didn’t feel threatened by Gene’s presence. In fact, she’s quite upset about this letter being given to Gene, because it could make him think that she was behind it! All this letter did is create more anxiety and drama for her.

    in reply to: An Appeal on Behalf of Steve Rousseau #24346
    Jana Pivkova
    General Member

    Derek,

    Thank you for speaking sense! I wish the people who talk to me in private about this, would also come out and offer their voices, so that the board members causing unnecessary drama in this club would understand that there are many of us who absolutely disagree with the way they handled this situation.

    I agree with you that calling the police for these extremely minor issues is putting the club in a bad spotlight. I agree with you that the San Bernardino PD have bigger fish to fry and calling them over to the LZ is probably irritating them to a great degree. Add to that all the flying incidents, search & rescue efforts, etc, and the club will start to look more like a liability rather than any asset to the city.

    I would HIGHLY advise the board to stop calling the PD for this reason and give up this idea of banning Steve from the LZ. To then actively try to lead them to Steve’s RV, which is located somewhere far off the CSS property, is truly extra.

    in reply to: An Appeal on Behalf of Steve Rousseau #24345
    Jana Pivkova
    General Member

    Jerome,

    I think it’s pretty important for all of us to know why our board members are resigning, don’t you think? Why should that be a secret? We’re all equal in this club, we vote, we volunteer and we’re supposed to be working together to make sure the club continues to exist in peace and harmony.

    When certain members volunteer to be on the board, they’re tasked with working AS A TEAM. If one or two members act without the prior approval of the other board members, or don’t bother to communicate to the rest of us what is happening with the club operations, I think that’s a huge problem.

    When a board member or two, or three, decide to act against the club’s explicit by laws to kick people out, or don’t respect their other board members enough to listen, discuss and apply appropriate measures and instead act as they please against better advice, it is dangerous to the club. I will always speak up against such people. I don’t care who they are.

    P.S. Are you suggesting I’m making things up to serve a narrative? Do you know me as someone who makes things up?

    in reply to: An Appeal on Behalf of Steve Rousseau #24344
    Jana Pivkova
    General Member

    Alan,

    You’d have to ask Mimi and/or Luke about the reasons the cops were called. I’m getting my information from someone who was there, and no, Steve was not causing any problems. His camper wasn’t on the property either. The person who informed me of that call didn’t want to interrupt my off-time with club drama as it was happening, but the idea was that there are cameras on the property and someone saw him getting water at the LZ. Maybe Mimi and Luke can give us the precise reasons for the call.

    All I know is that by allowing Steve to visit the LZ during the day and using the water from the faucet, the club is not “aiding a squatter”, which is a reason we’ve been given from Luke for trespassing Steve. They’re essentially denying a homeless man drinking water, so yes,… it is cruel and inhumane. As my screenshot above explains, giving a homeless person water and food is not aiding a crime, even if he were committing one, but he is not.

    Steve is about 60 years old. He has done the best with what he has to work with, and he does get work from pilots who need him to drive, or fold gear, etc. Right now he can’t help them and he can’t earn any income, because he’s not allowed on the property at any time by Luke and Mimi. These board members are not only harming a 60 year old homeless man for a bogus reason, they’re harming multiple members who want to hire Steve to carry out certain tasks at and around the LZ, but can’t.

     

    in reply to: An Appeal on Behalf of Steve Rousseau #24336
    Jana Pivkova
    General Member

    While we were on vacation, apparently one or more of the board members called the police yet again, trying to make Steve R’s life even more difficult than it already is. I want you to know that if you are calling the cops and continuing to harass Steve R, we cannot continue to be friends, or on good terms. I can’t be a friend to someone who can be so cruel and inhumane. Feel free to avoid me. The premise upon which Steve R is being removed, is absolutely bogus. Can’t wait for the next board election to come along.

    P.S. For those of you who don’t know, the only actual lawyer who was incredibly valuable to have on the CSS board, resigned two weeks ago. Why? Because certain individuals on the board like to think they know better than lawyers do. This resignation is causing actual harm to the club. I would certainly much prefer the resignation of the President at this point, because from my observations, his lack of respect for his team is driving members away from volunteering. This club cannot survive without willing volunteers and we don’t need tyrannical board members chipping away at people’s will to help out.

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    in reply to: An Appeal on Behalf of Steve Rousseau #24228
    Jana Pivkova
    General Member

    Ben,

    I would like to know how each member of the board voted on this issue. I’ve asked at least twice now and I have yet to get an answer. If it’s a collective decision, then it should be easy to say “Every single one of us voted to have Steve trespassed and we all feel he is a threat to the existence of the club”. Is that the case? Did everyone on the board vote to take this action?

    I know that you’re not likely to disagree with the Events Coordinator and vice versa, because the two of you are a (married?) couple. I’m beginning to realize that both of you being on the board is a terrible idea, as it almost guarantees that the two of you will agree on most issues and vote the same way, whereas if there wasn’t a relationship there, both of you would be far more likely to make independent decisions of each other.

    I’m not looking at this from an emotional point of view, I am evaluating all the information and weighing the pros and cons of your decision. I see more cons than I see pros, I haven’t been presented with any proof of Encore demanding that Steve never be allowed on CSS property again, and I know for a fact that personal bias is at the heart of this issue more so than any “threat” to the club. I’m not new here, I’ve seen and heard things, I know how certain people operate. I wish I could say that all of you are “fair & balanced”, but I know better.

    in reply to: An Appeal on Behalf of Steve Rousseau #24221
    Jana Pivkova
    General Member

    “Thanks for alerting me that my name is not on the club roster, although when I checked to see if I am current, the renewal link shows I am.  I have been flying Crestline and Marshal off and on for over 30 years and before the current AJX LZ even existed, and I have supported the CSS in varying ways over that time.  I don’t understand what the frequency of my flying there has to do with this discussion.”

    If your name is not on the club roster, your membership is not current. Maybe the CSS webmaster can fix that for you, or fix the subscription info under each member profile. It can be unnecessarily confusing and you wouldn’t be the first to have that problem.

    Your frequency of flying is relevant, because if you don’t spend a lot of time at the LZ, you are not familiar with some of the personalities on the board, their level of honesty, their familiarity with the site & its members, their treatment of others around them, their personal history with Steve, or their biases. It’s hard to imagine someone would make things up in order to justify unpopular actions, but unfortunately it happens. I have seen it with my own eyes.

    “You are also projecting quite a bit when I refer to Steve as homeless as if I consider calling someone homeless to be a pejorative or look down on their situation.  I don’t disparage folks for being homeless but I also don’t absolve them from being responsible and accountable for their actions or their effects on others. Regarding Encore, I have no illusions that they will not act in their own best interests, possibly to our detriment but I believe that the chances of them wanting to take the clubs interests into consideration can be greatly diminished by granting club membership to someone that they have been in an adversarial relationship with.  It literally boggles my mind why you think having Steve become a club member would be a good thing for the club while use of our current and future landing approaches are, (pardon the pun) “up in the air”.

    Steve is being held responsible for his actions. He vacated the property where he was squatting. He is no longer an issue for Encore.

    The other neighbors are not, and have never complained about him. The “what ifs” aren’t actual crimes, they’re imagined scenarios, and some of the board members would like to punish him for the crimes they imagine he might commit. He never had a chance to defend himself and he deserves to be able to do that, because he’s been a pilot, a member and a volunteer.

    Besides squatting on Encore land, he has never done anything egregious, unlike a few current members who get to enjoy the LZ after committing violent crimes, severely threatening the site with their illegal actions and harassing other members, or they continue to leave their campers on CSS property for days and nights at a time. Selective enforcement once again.

    Encore is NOT monitoring CSS memberships. They care about one thing and one thing only, Steve off their land. He is off their land. They don’t care what happens to Steve now that he’s off their land, but the President and Events Coordinator don’t seem to care about these facts, they simply want a reason to make him go away and they will push this imaginary “threat to AJX” to scare some of you into believing that Steve will somehow bring the club to an end.

    Meanwhile the board has been ignoring many of their necessary duties since last year and has been jeopardizing our 501c non profit status. Hypocrisy, abuse of power and dishonesty at work.

    “Please tell me that you don’t think a members conduct outside of the confines of AJX should have no bearing on their membership.”

    I don’t recall the board EVER doing background checks on its membership. I don’t recall the board ever going around the parking lot, checking license plates and removing people for crimes committed outside of AJX. I have no idea what crimes you may have committed outside of AJX. We may have serial killers among us and I wouldn’t know it. I have, however, witnessed physically violent behavior at the LZ by members who are currently continuing to enjoy AJX! Selective enforcement.

    “You can disparage my humanity, but I make no apologies about being more concerned about the CSS/AJX then about Steve’s association with our club and site”

    I’m reading what you write and that’s all I have to go on. Steve is not an actual threat to the club, though a board member or two would like to misrepresent the situation to accomplish their personal goals of removing him. I’m still waiting for proof that Encore requested Steve is never to set foot on CSS property, after he vacates their property.

     

    in reply to: An Appeal on Behalf of Steve Rousseau #24217
    Jana Pivkova
    General Member

    “I want to clarify the timeline regarding the other flight park to ensure the record is accurate. Steve did not have permission to be at Soboba; he simply arrived on the property without authorization.”

    I didn’t know that you had to call Soboba ahead of time to let them know you’re coming. Is that a thing? Is there a reservation process we should be aware of? I don’t see any reservation info on their website.

    “What I was told during my conversation with the staff was that Jeremy had to leave town for a family emergency within 24 hours of Steve’s unannounced arrival and was not part of the process of getting him to leave. I had a long, detailed conversation in person directly with the Soboba staff who were left on-site to handle the situation and enforce park rules. According to them, Steve overstayed his welcome and did not vacate the property until four days after they directed him to do so.”

    I’m going to have to give more weight to Jeremy’s reply here, as it is his site. I trust his staff would have communicated these issues to him and he would have told me whether Steve had done anything wrong during his stay at Soboba. At the very least, he would not have said that “He was great to have around” if he was causing problems. Your account of his stay at Soboba doesn’t match Jeremy’s version, and it is troubling that it differs to such a degree. That’s all I can say. Your version makes him sound like an unruly trespasser. Jeremy’s version makes him sound like a visitor. What other encounters with Steve are being misrepresented in order to justify his removal?

    “Regarding the CSS notice, the board acts as a collective governing body. All formal notices and actions are issued strictly on behalf of the entire Board of Directors to fulfill our unified duty to protect the club and the landing zone.”

    I know how it works. I’ve spent years on the board. Can you please tell us how you, Luke, Ben, Jamie, Erika, Nate, Jeff and Brian voted in regard to this matter? The vote should have been accessible to the general membership during one of your board meetings, as is stated in the By Laws. I’d like to know how each of you are representing the general membership and whether it aligns with our vision for the flight park.

     

    in reply to: An Appeal on Behalf of Steve Rousseau #24213
    Jana Pivkova
    General Member

    Alan,

    You don’t need to agree with me. I don’t expect everyone to agree. You are free to have your own opinion based on the information that you have.

    To you and to other infrequent visitors to AJX, Steve is “just some homeless guy”. Why care about some poor, unsightly homeless guy? He ruins the view and the visitor experience, doesn’t he? Homeless people are a real drain on society. They’re useless, aren’t they? They don’t deserve our compassion, our friendship, or monetary reward for their labor. They’re subhuman, they’re nobody’s children and we really shouldn’t be wasting our precious time or resources on them. They don’t deserve it. Why won’t they simply call a social services number, ask for help and GTFO of our sight??

    Encore is finished with Steve. He is off their property now and no longer their concern. So long as he stays off Encore property (and he will), he is no longer a “threat” to the club. Banning him from the LZ for future crimes that haven’t happened, is wrong.

    Some of our board members have hypocritical tendencies. They break the club (and sometimes FAA) rules themselves, they pick and choose what club rules to enforce with whom, and I don’t agree with the way things are being handled. This selective enforcement based on personal issues is what bothers me. Their inhumane treatment of Steve is abhorrent.

    Where is a current letter from Encore stating that they will go back on their word with the CSS if Steve is allowed to visit the LZ during the day? Where is a letter from Encore stating that if Steve is banished from the LZ, they won’t build houses right at the edge of our grass? It doesn’t exist! If it did, they would have presented it long ago.

    Do you know what Encore is doing? They’re currently trying to shut down the park completely by claiming that we are performing illegal activities at this site. They’re not trying to work with us, they don’t care if we get to fly, they want their millions. I’m not going to sacrifice Steve for these people, just so Encore can go ahead and do what they were going to do, regardless of how much cooperation we give them.

    Steve’s business outside of Encore and the CSS property is his business alone. There are no neighbor complaints. If there were, the board would have presented them as evidence. Instead, the reasons given for trespassing Steve is to “help” him, and the “proof” they presented to me is from a year ago, already resolved. I’m not allowed to share that letter, but I was able to see it, because I am on the LSFFC board. There is no other outstanding issue, but these board members would like to use this opportunity to make him disappear.

    I don’t see your name on the CSS members list. Maybe I missed it. How often do you fly at AJX? I’m just curious how well you know Steve and whether you’ve had a chance to realize why many of us members find him valuable at the LZ. I haven’t seen Billie in about a year, maybe longer, and he’s also not on the members list. I know he likes to visit for a few days and then goes right back to Vegas. We like to have him, we enjoy conversations with him, but he is not all that familiar with the personalities running the board. I’ve noticed that none of the current CSS members are complaining about Steve, only a couple of the board members and the two of you. Don’t you find that interesting?

    P.S. I contacted Jeremy Bishop to get his side of the Soboba story. Here’s what Mimi wrote above:

    “Following that, Steve tried to move and squat at another flight park (Soboba), but because he was trying to do the exact same thing there that he did at AJX—living on-site without authorization—they also had to ask him to leave. According to the staff at that flight park, Steve didn’t even vacate until four days after they explicitly asked him to go.”

    Here’s what Jeremy said:

    “Steve did absolutely nothing  at all. He was great to have around, we had a family emergency that has turned into an extended period. I asked him to leave while we deal with this and reset when we get back. Hope this clears any rumors up!”

     

    in reply to: An Appeal on Behalf of Steve Rousseau #24205
    Jana Pivkova
    General Member

    Mimi,

    I don’t find this matter closed and as far as I know, the decision was not unanimous. Can you please let me know how each board member voted?

    I maintain that this is something to be discussed with the club as a whole. I will continue to insist on a discussion of this matter at the next general members meeting. Please let all of us know when that meeting will be taking place, so that we can be present.

    I do not believe that Steve R. is a threat to the existence of the club, I believe that board members who take drastic actions and try to scare-monger us into compliance are the real danger.

    By Laws

    Section 2. Board Meetings:

    A. Regular meetings of the executive Board shall be held every other month (the day, time, and location to be determined by the Board) and open to the membership.

    Section 2. Special Meetings:

    A. Special meetings may be called by the president or the executive Board. Special meetings may also be called by the president or the executive Board upon written notice of no less than 20 general members. Notice of special meetings shall be given to the general members at least thirty (30) days in advance

    Section 1. Discipline of Members:

    A. Charges of professional dishonesty, working against, or performing actions contrary to, the principles and purpose of the Society, and/or injuring the professional standing of a member may be filed in a written statement signed by five general members in good standing and sent to the executive Board.

    B. The accused member shall be notified in writing of the action and shall have the privilege of being present at a special or regular meeting of the executive Board, at which the charges will be considered.

     

     

    in reply to: An Appeal on Behalf of Steve Rousseau #24199
    Jana Pivkova
    General Member

    Steve R. received this notice from the board yesterday. I’m curious as to who typed this up. Doesn’t a “final” notice usually require a previous written notice? Did he receive one? May we see a copy of that notice?

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    This notice comes after my conversation with Luke on the 14th. Luke told me over the phone and in a text message; “I promised you that I wasn’t trying to kick Steve out and I have not done that nor do I have any intention of doing that.” He also stated that he did not forward the current motion, it was a board vote. How did you vote, Luke? Who brought up this subject?

    I truly believe that Steve should be given an opportunity to defend himself and to have others speak on his behalf during a meeting. Due process is important and Steve can’t be reduced or dehumanized into “some homeless guy”, because he is not just some homeless guy to many of us who’ve known him longer than we’ve known some of you.

    Also, it is every club member’s right to listen in on board meetings, even if we can’t participate until the general members meetings. That’s the way it’s been for decades, until Covid came along. Since Covid we’ve moved away from this model, but I think it’s time to bring it back. Board meetings need to be transparent. None of these discussions should be held in secret anymore. We need to know how each board member is representing us, or whether they are representing us at all.