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Tim Ward
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Premium MemberIn cleaning out the container, I was reminded that we have a projection screen, seven or eight feet wide.
We have, in the past, had parties where we watched movies.
While not a big construction consideration, we might want to put it in a checklist and think about where the best place to hang it would be.Tim Ward
Premium MemberSo I’m a little unclear. Is this to be in the same general vicinity as the existing concrete, or (as shorthand, not literally) backed up against the candy cane?
I’m not actually too fussed either way, just unsure as to what the consensus is.
Tim Ward
Premium MemberIf you look very closely, there *is* a harness.
Wolfie is daring, no doubt, but he’s not suicidal.Tim Ward
Premium MemberYou’ll be pleased to know that in preliminary discussions with J. Paul, we’re looking at insetting the storage box and kitchen area into that berm over by the candy cane.
There will be some shade where the existing concrete is, but most vertical structure (like the box and wall) that cause turbulence will be gone.
Tim Ward
Premium MemberAs long as we’re doing a complete reimagining of the LZ facilities, consider this pipe dream:
Digging out the very top of the parking lot to inset the existing storage containers.
Some reinforced concrete on top, then some dirt and/or grass.
This would add area to the East approach, making it wider.
This would open up all the area where the containers currently are for parking.
And that parking would be gravitationally advantageous.
Having a wider area would make it easier to have multiple rows of cars.
Yes, we get an extra row in now, but it’s pretty tight.
Storage would be much closer to the LZ, too.Tim Ward
Premium Member“As God is my witness, I thought turkeys could fly!”
Tim Ward
Premium MemberYep, thanks, Mario. That’s very handy. I dragged it around a little and still picked up a variety of screws and nails.
I suspect we’ll be doing that for some time before it doesn’t come up with anything.
Tim Ward
Premium MemberOn a clean-sheet redesign, it would probably make more sense to orient shade E/W instead of N/S, and put it backed up against the slope by the candy cane, between the candy cane and the road.
Or at one point I had this fantasy of putting all the storage containers next to the LZ, in the immediate vicinity of the north stairs. There would be some digging to put their roofs about the same height as the E/W runway. Then build a patio on top of that.
For the kitchen area to have much utility, it needs to have shade at the minimum. I think it should keep rain off as well.
Minimizing the wind shadow is all well and good, but I think we’re going to have to live with some of our past decisions, absent someone getting a very large grant.
Tim Ward
Premium MemberBecause someone has to be responsible and retract them.
We can’t keep the freaking door locked overnight on the container.
I’m there quite a bit, but I’m not always the last one there.
Rather than minimum cost right now, we should be thinking maximum utility over the next 25 to 50 years
I think spending money on a professionally engineered solution now is going to be cheaper in the long run.
I’m pretty sure we had fewer than 100 members when the former structure got built. Granted, it came together a little higgledy-piggledy, and at relatively low cost to the club, because IIRC a large portion of the materials were donated by members. Pretty much all the labor was. If we had built the bottom of the columns in a way that didn’t let them deteriorate due to moisture, we might still have it.
But now we have 200+ members, and multiple instructors. Even if most of the students don’t hang around and become regular users, they’re still wanting shade in between kiting while they’re students.
Maybe the plan should plan on taking the building in stages, but in a modular and expandable way.
Tim Ward
Premium MemberWe could have maybe a big column next to where the HG bags currently get dropped off. That would be in your initial field of view as you come up the north steps.
Tim Ward
Premium MemberI like the hip roofs. No matter which way the wind comes it’s at a negative AoA. Well, zero, I suppose, overall, but you know what I mean.
That suggests an idea to me: a vented hip. Viewed from the side, in ascii art it would look something like: / —– \ , although I expect the slashes would be at much lower angles, and there would be more overlap with the hyphens.
I’m not sure how you’d calculate what the optimum opening at the top is. You’d want the air displaced by one side to “shade” the positive AoA of the other.
On the other hand, a flat roof would probably work, because it did, until it got structurally compromised by rot.
Tim Ward
Premium MemberPerfect kiting weather. Shouldn’t have any trouble getting the canopy to come up.
Tim Ward
Premium MemberJai Paul is an architect, and has kindly volunteered to supervise the design. He says he’ll design to code, upgraded to 130 mph wind, which is comfortably above anything I’ve ever seen out there.
I’ll trust calculation over “that looks about right.”
Tim Ward
Premium MemberMark:
There are metal roofs that are guaranteed to 125 mph, so I’m told.
I don’t have an issue either way. The roof we had was metal.
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