For  Jana who states “I think it’s pretty important for all of us to know why our board members are resigning, don’t you think? Why should that be a secret?”

Until we hear it directly from the board member, for someone else to disclose/share reasons, is equivalent to gossip. Update: On July 22, Jamie allows Jana to be her representative.

Best wishes in your quest. This issue is not simple and hopefully every factor (maintaining site insurance, appropriate punishment, uniformity of rule application, disturbing police, nearby housing development, caring for a friend in need, to name a few) is correspondingly weighted towards setting future actions by the board. It would be too easy to focus on a single aspect (or a recent event) instead of the “big picture” and then contribute to the cancel culture towards a board member.

I only had positive interactions with Steve. But then again, I did not have to tell him to change his ways.

Jana,

Agreed, and I also thought to mention the drawn attention of the air rescues, even though I don’t believe they have the same impact as the frivolous Steve incidents. I’ve had personal conversations with pilots of San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Aviation who have expressed  that they are concerned that I’ll wind up another hoist out of Waterman Canyon or in their flight path above Marshall when they trek from the High Desert to SB Airport. But, they also understand that even though it’s extremely dangerous, it’s their job and they are willing to risk their lives hoisting us out of a precarious situation. It’s what they signed up for. No cop signed up to deal with civil trespassing issues. CSS, let’s come together and find common ground on the Steve issue. I believe it’s a non issue, really. Why not hire him in some way to manage the grounds as a resident position.
Cheers,

Hi Thomas,

To give you and the club the direct, factual answer: Yes, a non-emergency report for trespass was filed after Steve entered CSS property on at least two documented occasions following his formal notice.

To ensure everyone has the facts rather than speculation, here is what occurred:

Thursday, July 9th: Steve entered CSS property around 8:00 PM, which was documented.
Friday, July 10th: Steve returned to the property around 4:30–5:00 PM to charge his one-wheel under the shade structure. He was identified by a fellow club member who was unaware of the situation and has no desire to be involved in forum discussions.
Working with SBPD: I called the San Bernardino Police non-emergency line (the only line used) and filed an online report per the dispatcher’s instructions. There was no push for an emergency or immediate response on my part—in fact, officers didn’t come out to take a physical report until about a week later, on Friday, July 17th at 3:00 PM, simply when their availability opened up. When the officers asked during that meeting if I knew where Steve was currently located in the area, I answered their direct question and shared that his RV had been seen parked nearby.
At no point were emergency lines used, nor has anyone from the board ever tracked or harassed Steve. Answering direct questions from law enforcement during an official interview is standard cooperation, not “surveillance.”

A formal notice was issued to protect the club’s legal standing, insurance, and site agreements. When a notice is violated, following standard procedure with local authorities is basic site management. If Steve had respected the notice and stayed off club property, no report would ever have been necessary.

We completely understand that members care about Steve and want to help him through personal channels. However, the board’s responsibility remains strictly focused on upholding club rules, protecting Andy Jackson Airpark, and keeping the LZ safe and operational for everyone.

On a personal note: Due to upcoming personal and family commitments, I will be stepping away from the forum and will not be reading or responding to posts here for at least the next two weeks. The questions raised here were directed specifically at Luke and me regarding these administrative actions, so please do not expect replies from other board members on this thread while I am away. Official, routine club matters will continue to be handled through standard board channels.

Jana,  would you please …. STOP making up what other people are saying and putting words in their mouths (with your “translation”) and stop ascribing sinister motives and evil intents to anyone that disagrees with your OPINION (let alone the facts).  The more I read your comments … the more I disagree with your position.  Thank goodness Jamie is the only lawyer mentioned here, because if you were a solicitor and I was a juror…. I think your clients would fry 🙄.   And could you please let us know if Jamie has authorized you to speak for her, or are you just making up what you think her opinions are as well.  I will post a LONGER comment/response later, but for now I will again state that I  believe Steve is a DETRIMENT to the club, for his previous inappropriate and illegal actions and his current inappropriate and illegal actions and his continuing association with the club and at AJX can and likely will adversely affect our dealings with our neighbors.  I also believe it was unwise and inappropriate for you to unilaterally purchase him a club membership as some apparent end around on this issue.  (I presume you are also in Favor of Tim Walz’s pardons SA offenders?).

Jana.  Thank you for giving me permission and the freedom to disagree with you 🙄. I have No problems having disagreements and then hopefully productive discussions or debate about those disagreements.  What I do have a problem with is when some one that disagrees with me tells me what they think and then rather than listen to me (or others), then  proceeds to tell me what I think.  It must be nice to be able to frame both sides of an issue, but does not really work when other folks actually want to present their own thoughts in their own words.  Please read your post above (#24359) where you want to “translate” other people’s words and then proceed to misrepresent what they said or mean and in fact make up their words and intentions.  That’s disingenuous and condescending.  And why do you try to diminish my input or validity of my comments by implying that because  I don’t frequent the Airpark often they are irrelevant.  I participate in this forum to stay abreast of the more important issues that concern me such as the viability of the club and flying site.   Can’t you support your opinions without attacking others or bringing up distractors.  This is a quick reply.  I will post a longer comment in the wee hours, as i will likely be awake at a less than ideal time tonight.

The Reference to Tim Walz had to do with a political issue.  I try to avoid bringing up state or national politics into other discussions due to how nasty that discourse can be, but I see some parallels here, especially with the attitudes expressed and bringing up social issues such as homelessness which … should be irrelevant  to a FLYING CLUB.  That said, I am now going off on a completely different tangent.  It does not  surprise me that you have not heard that Governor Tim Walz … completely PARDONED a 40 something year old man who had been arrested, charged and found guilty of repeatedly raping a 10 year old girl.  Tim Walz and his parole board ADMITTED that they pardoned him BECAUSE he was an illegal immigrant facing deportation and they wanted to block deportation.  I acknowledge this is an extreme comparison but buying a person a club membership … not to get him flying , but to circumvent him being held accountable for his actions or to bypass a board that, (how ever flawed you think they are) that I believe are acting in the best interests of the club and protecting the site going forward.  This is a HUGE (or should I say a “YUGE”) national story, because the Secretary of State steped in and revoked this pedophiles legal status and he has already been deported back to Laos.  The amazing thing is that ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN and MSNBC have given this story exactly… ZERO minutes of coverage, which is why I am not surprised you are unaware of it.  So when you hear certain folks complaining of.. FAKE NEWS … it is not always just for publishing some fake stories, but what is much worse is their OMISSION of stories and why they won’t cover certain stories.  Lies of omission are often worse than just plain old lies (of commission).

OK, done with that political rant.  My next point will be on point on why I believe Steve is STILL a detriment to the club.   Carry On