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David Webb General MemberCongrats on the upcoming new life!
February 14, 2021 at 4:31 PM in reply to: Incident Report: PG vs Crestline Trees, December 27, 2020 #11312
David Webb General MemberI don’t want to start any more arguments or cause any more issues than I may already have, but my hope was that all of the instructors would endeavor to impress upon their students the importance of respecting the flight requirements of the site and why that’s important. Hopefully, many or all of them are already doing that (totally likely, I’m not saying that they aren’t). Also, when it becomes known that a student is repeatedly violating those rules and requirements, that their instructor could step in and have a serious conversation with the student, in addition to letting the safety officer know that they are dealing with it.
I never expected people on launch to play police, and it’s next to impossible to “card” everyone before they fly. I’m a believer in the effectiveness of just saying hello to new pilots (or pilots that we don’t recognize) – relevant information usually just falls out and makes it easier and more pleasant to guide that person in the right direction.
I’m not in the hot seat anymore, but I’m confident John will have some good ideas on making some improvements in that area. Signage, possibly including a QR code to the site briefing for each launch (in addition to AJX) might be a good start for visiting pilots.
The enthusiasm and support is super appreciated, Jeremy! Teamwork makes the dream work. :)
David Webb General MemberMy vote is for Susumu – if he’s not the oldest, he’s definitely the coolest. My guess is that he’ll be flying until he’s 100. :)
February 12, 2021 at 5:05 PM in reply to: Debunking a rumor: Selective accident/incident reporting #11295
David Webb General MemberThe 2 incidents mentioned by the spicy rumor department, for those that like to read reports, occurred on 4/15 and 4/25. The reports make it very easy to get dates and other pertinent details straight, since there were no reported (or rumored) incidents on 4/16. If no one mentioned or reported one (even though it sounds identical to the one one 4/25), please send it in.
David Webb General MemberBut it was a beautiful day in the neighborhood.
David Webb General MemberJust my opinion, but I don’t see anything wrong with letting anyone in the flying community post here. As long as we can all behave ourselves, I think there’s value in letting folks who may not fly here regularly (and might not be regular members) join in on discussions. To my knowledge, we’ve really only had an issue with a couple of people in the entire history of the site’s forum (both the old one and the current one) – that’s actually surprisingly good.
David Webb General MemberNow THAT’s a sunset! Nice pic.
David Webb General MemberI’m jealous!
David Webb General MemberSorry – I just don’t see what dragging it out accomplishes? I want everyone to be included and participate, and I take the censorship thing very seriously, but 3 strikes for posting in a forum is more than enough. This isn’t a case of someone blurting something out and then regrettting saying the moment after. There is ample opportunity between getting mentally fired up, typing out a reply, and clicking “Submit” to exercise a little self control. I think the fact that this is the first instance since the new website went live that anyone has even considered banning a person from the forum is testament to just how open it is. I’ve only heard of one other instance on the old site where this was necessary and I’ve yet to see any posts from any other participants (no matter how much I might disagree with them) that made me think “ban this person.”
David Webb General MemberI still advocate the 3 strikes rule, and think it’s a good compromise. There is definitely a difference between “colorful language” and repeatedly dragging down the rest of the forum with insults and threats. There has to be a limit and if a warning followed by a 30 day suspension aren’t reaching that individual, then it’s likely that they have no intention of changing their ways. This forum has got to be welcoming and usable by as many in the community as possible.
David Webb General MemberBump on this thread – results shown in the main post above.
David Webb General MemberIt was proposed that we add to the guidelines above a 3 strikes rule:
- First offense is a warning (and depending on the severity, may result in the post being removed)
- Second offense results in a 30 day forum ban
- Third strike – permanent ban
What does everyone think of that?
David Webb General MemberAgree completely. I think reducing conflicts of interest would be best for all involved (businesses, members, students, and visitors).
February 2, 2021 at 3:26 PM in reply to: Incident Report: PG vs Bushes Below Marshall Peak Launch, January 21, 2021 #11201
David Webb General MemberUpdate: if it’s the word “crash” that’s causing tempers to flare, I changed the title. A peace offering to the flight gods in hopes that cooler heads may prevail.
February 2, 2021 at 2:39 PM in reply to: Incident Report: PG vs Bushes Below Marshall Peak Launch, January 21, 2021 #11200
David Webb General MemberSorry you feel that way. I apologize to anyone who feels like they’re getting bashed or targeted. I made a pitiful attempt this year to improve the club’s safety record and image in the flying community (and with USHPA), so hopefully it’s nothing but blue skies after Friday with the new guy.
Again, I’d encourage anyone to send along relevant facts to safety@crestlinesoaring.org and they will be incorporated into the report.
Safe flying.
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