Thanks Jai Pal. Since vandalism (someone throwing a rock) can happen, do you think tempered glass is sufficient? How much more $ for laminated glass as used by storefronts?

Thank you Jai Pal. Aside from the pleasing esthetics, why would we want so much glass?

From the inside, it would provide an outside view if people spent time there, but unless there is climate control (ongoing cost), being hotter inside would prevent staying there during summer (not a classroom). Natural light during daytime will avoid turning on a light, but we still need lighting for nighttime.

From the outside, it removes a sense of privacy for those inside, which can be good for security. But it also reveals the contents and may entice looters to return, if anything of value is visible.

How about… Minimize the use of glass, only have some high (above eye level) windows.

Pros: Light can enter during daytime. Not as easy for looters to look inside. Less window cleaning. Reduced exposure to vandalism (fragile windows). Less expensive.

Cons: Not as pretty.

Still wondering if combining location for storage and shade-for-people is effective. Having club item storage off the LZ surface would… Provide a greater percentage of usable shade area for people under a given roof size, and allow more airflow under the roof to minimize downwind turbulence. Is it too late to review the concept, are we locked in at this point?

Marc, I’d also like to drive by and see this. It must be a secret location since you’ve received no reply. I’m currently traveling all over the US and could fit it in along the way.
Can anyone also update us on the donations balance?

Found it.

Not a rendering, although the photo has been manipulated. It’s one of a number of Costa Coffee shops in England.  Design has also been used for other businesses.

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Hi Jai Pal, today Tim shed light on the master plan… That the inside of the building could be air conditioned and that power be drawn from solar panels you are donating. Sounds like a possible solution and thank you for your generous donation to the club !

What is your calculation for how much solar panel surface is needed to cool the enclosed volume on a 100+ °F day? Are we trying to cool the air for people staying inside (why stay inside?), or just equipment not to overheat?

Option 3 won with 28% of  the votes, which also means that 72% of voters preferred doing something else.

Before we commit funds to a given path and permanently alter existing work (like the kitchen), can we have a quick consolidation vote in proceeding with this specific path, simply asking CSS members…

Do you want to proceed with option 3, or return to considering all options (including what should be on the LZ like shade alone and/or storage) ?

Thank you for considering this. From what I heard in the LZ yesterday, this would help appease many. The only downside of this extra vote is a short pause, but we could afterwards proceed with greater unity.

Thank you Jai Pal, for answering my question about solar panel quantity/surface. Info like this is helpful.

You also bring up a good point that options 3 & 4 are near identical, which increases the percentage of voters who chose a similar design.

This conversation and sharing of details is good.

An idea for more people to help financially… Add the possibility to pre-pay 5-10 years of membership to temporarily boost club funds?