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July 21, 2022 at 3:25 PM #16255Jerome DaoustGeneral Member
Not that it is super-important for a club to be an USHPA Chapter or not, but there are 2 related questions:
- Is the club a current USHPA Chapter?
- Who created (avoiding the word “decided”) the change (if no longer a Chapter)?
Just curious to find the answers so they can be put to rest (no benefit to me either way)…
About being a current Chapter, some collected info:
- Source (ref): No longer a Chapter since June 2021.
- Alan (ref) + David (ref): Conflicting website info, club on the map, but not in the CA state query result.
- David (ref 1, ref 2): Told “No” by USHPA.
- Jai Pal (ref): “CSS asked USHPA for the dues renewal invoice for 2022-2023 this week. There has been no response yet from Galen or anyone else at USHPA HQ.”
My bet is on “No”, but the saga goes on.
About who (club or USHPA) created the change (if no longer a Chapter), maybe both sides are partially right. Collected info:
- Source (ref): “CSS canceled their RRRG insurance and USHPA Chapter’s conditional renewal status mid-year 2021 due to not wanting to implement Risk Management corrective actions. One of which was reinstating Local level Accident Reporting and risk mitigation actions.”.
- Stan (ref): ” If CSS is no longer a USHPA Chapter, that was solely USHPA’s sole doing.”.
- Jai Pal (ref 1, ref 2): “I am in agreement with Stan, CSS paid its dues through 2022 and never cancelled being a Chapter of USHPA, nor did USHPA ever issue any notice of cancellation or change of status to CSS.”.
Both sides can be partially right, in that from the club’s perspective they desired to remain a Chapter and willing to pay dues. From USHPA’s perspective, the club canceled their conditional renewal status due to not wanting to implement corrective actions. The question may be reduced to: “If you want to get/buy something, but not meet the requirements, who prevents it from happening?“.
August 16, 2022 at 7:16 PM #16471Jai Pal KhalsaGeneral MemberEmail from Executive Director of USHPA received last week stating CSS is a Chapter and since CSS does not carry USHPA Chapter insurance it can renew for $-0- He asked if we wanted to renew, and if yes, where he should send the letter of confirmation. The CSS reply was yes and to forward the official USHPA letter of Chapter renewal confirmation to CSS, care of the President and Veep. Awaiting the USHPA renewal confirmation letter. Veep.
August 16, 2022 at 8:34 PM #16472Jerome DaoustGeneral MemberThank you for following up Jai Pal, clarifying the club’s status and keeping/renewing the club as a Chapter.
It’s mostly just a title, but why not since it’s free.
August 20, 2022 at 1:11 AM #16494Jai Pal KhalsaGeneral MemberThe best things in life are free.
August 20, 2022 at 1:51 PM #16500David WebbGeneral MemberLooks like we have a Flying Lizards fan :)
August 20, 2022 at 3:38 PM #16505August 20, 2022 at 9:21 PM #16509Jai Pal KhalsaGeneral MemberLOVE
August 21, 2022 at 10:53 AM #16513Getting kinda Agro here gentlemen ; try just washing it ALL away :
August 22, 2022 at 9:25 AM #16518Tim WardGeneral MemberBeatles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_awAH-JJx1k
Written by Berry Gordy, though.
September 2, 2022 at 6:41 AM #16557Gotta admit…
I just became a fan, too!
Hilarious!
December 18, 2023 at 5:36 PM #19384Jerome DaoustGeneral MemberSeems like it was NOT resolved…
In the latest (December 2023) USHPA Member Newsletter, we have this section:
and when following the Chapter Status link, it downloads a PDF document stating that 2020 was our last active year:
December 18, 2023 at 7:56 PM #19385December 19, 2023 at 9:59 AM #19386The benefits of chapterhood:
1. A place on a list for Jerome to ponder over.
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December 23, 2023 at 10:05 AM #19401I think it’s a fair question and I too would love to know the answer. If CSS is not an USHPA chapter does this mean USHPA regulations do not apply nor need to be followed at AJX? If so, what are the regulations that will govern safe flying at this site? Thank you.
December 24, 2023 at 1:24 PM #19414Jai Pal KhalsaGeneral MemberChapter Charter, Bylaws and rules still apply to Chapter Members. It’s not a free for all out there. Members must obey requirements of the Crestline Soaring Society. We have other governing jurisdictions to our sport such as the FAA, and other local, state and federal, even international law. Good Manners, Decency, Civility, the Golden Rule, and the right hand right of way rule benefits us all too.
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