I know I am late to the game here, but the forum should be an extension of the LZ/club in general.

I can show great intelligence when I am working on the car or in the attic doing HVAC work, and still frequently my wife shows even greater intelligence.  However, one day some time back in the LZ when she was waiting for me to land she told me that a group of pilots were having a very loud discussion about how F-ing rad the day was and how F-ing cool the conditions are and did you see my F-ing zoom coming in to land, etc, while there were multiple visitors with their kids in the LZ.  She was so embarrassed for the visitors she went to the car and waited.

I tell everyone I fly with (737 flying) about hanggliding and many of them do go to the CSS website to look around, being pilots after all.  If a visitor who is potentially interested in learning to HG/PG goes to the website and sees foul language and general discord it is quite possible we have lost a new participant, especially if said newbie has a wife and kids and plans to bring his wife and kids with him so they can enjoy the activity as well.

While I have no problem with intelligent people and even showing my intelligence, the forum and the LZ should be welcoming to non-members so that we work to bring in as many folks as possible to HG/PG.

Albert is exactly correct.

Very interesting.  Years ago, I was flying an Enstrom F28 doing tours of Wash DC and I crossed the river behind a 727 landing at National.  I was banked 90 degrees instantly.

In current times, I have been violently rolled in my 737 when taking off behind an Airbus 320/321, which is not given wake turbulence separation because it “isn’t needed.”  For some reason the non-heavy Airbus produces much stronger wake turbulence than the 737 or Douglas designs.

Another oddity, the east coast air traffic controllers are much more cognizant of separation when taking off behind a heavy than the west coast controllers.  Don’t know why that is the case.

Essentially the same as at Lookout Mt.

Lookout isn’t Park Service, it is private, so the owner can set the rules.  You pay for a year’s membership, you get a sticker which goes on the rear keel.  Visiting pilots get a different color sticker after they pay for the day/week/month pass.

When you pay for your pass you sign that you have read the rules, etc. You break the rules, you lose your flying privileges.

The problem with that plan at AJX is, Lookout has a full time staffed office at launch where you pay for your sticker.  There is no office or person in charge who is available at AJX to get the sticker from for visiting pilots, and, no ability to ensure that the rules are followed.

David, the updated audit hasn’t been updated to change me from 4 RF 8 to 4 RF 7.