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David Webb
General MemberThanks for posting that, Jonathan.
David Webb
General MemberIf you’re in the Interlaken/Lauterbrunnen area, that’s (in my opinion) just about the most beautiful place on planet earth. Can’t wait to go back and fly this time!
David Webb
General MemberLame-o alert.
David Webb
General MemberLiving the dream, Nacho!
David Webb
General MemberThat looks like it wants to stab me in a dark alley :)
David Webb
General MemberOr for those that like to live dangerously, what about good ol’ fashioned, banned-because-kids-hurt-themselves, lawn darts?
David Webb
General MemberUpdate: ALL national forests in CA are now closed until further notice.
https://abc7.com/california-fires-map-wildfires-in-fire-near-me-gender-reveal/6415907/
David Webb
General MemberHi Tom,
We don’t want to be heavy-handed about shutting the site down (I want to go flying too), but should be clear about a few points:
The US Forest Service has been pretty clear about the closures and the reasons behind them:
As of 5:00 PM on Monday, September 7, the Regional Forester is closing 8 National Forests in Southern California, including the San Bernardino National Forest. This means the National Forest is temporarily closed to ALL public use due to the threat from high fire danger and firefighting resources being spread stretched to the limit. This includes driving Forest Roads, Hiking on Forest Trails, and being in any Forest Service Developed Recreation Areas.
As of now, the order by the regional forester is in effect from September 7 through the 14th (unless things develop differently). We only miss a weekend of flying if the restrictions get lifted at the end of that.
Sylmar has completely shut down their site as well (they are in the Angeles National Forest), so we’re not doing something crazy or unique: shga.com.
Whether we like it or not, crashes and land-outs happen. Helicopters get called. Dirt roads get driven on to help extract pilots. None of that is something that should be an option at the moment, and unfortunately, it’s always an option in our sport.
I’d suggest that everyone read the various pieces of information that are out now regarding the fires and forest closures, as they provide a lot of detail about the when and why:
David Webb
General MemberCrestline Regionals webcam has been pointed back to its normal position.
David Webb
General MemberClub’s position is that we all should respect the closures that the forest service laid down. I don’t know if any of the gates are physically locked or if any of the roads are blocked, but they are all on forest service land as far as I can tell (correct me if I’m wrong) – that includes the roads, Marshall, Crestline, the 750, and the Devil’s Canyon Bailout.
AJX is not on forest service land, so if people want to use the training hills or kite, I don’t see any issue with that.
Hopefully this will be winding down by the weekend – I haven’t seen a blanket closure like this before, so who knows how long it will be. Everyone be sure to thank Mr. and Mrs. Gender Reveal for their hardwork. I hope they got lots of Instagram likes.
David Webb
General MemberThat looks like it’s above my personal autoignition temperature. Might need to take the weekend off to prevent this:
David Webb
General MemberLooks like the song is in need of a little re-writing:
Mr. Banks:
With tuppence for paper and strings
You can have your own set of wings
Withyour feet on the ground(nope)
You’re a bird in flight (whether you like it or not)
With your fist holding tight (really tight)
To thestring(tail) of your kiteOh, oh, oh!
Let’s go fly a kite (or the kite flies you)
Up to the highest height!
Let’s go fly a kite and sendit(ourselves) soaring
Up through the atmosphere
Up where the air is clear
Oh, let’s go fly a kite! (or the kite flies you)Bert:
When you send it flyin’ up there
All at once you’re lighter than air
You candance(flail) on the breeze
Over ‘ouses and trees (and spectators)
With your fist ‘olding tight (death grip)
To thestring(tail) of your kiteLondoners:
Oh, oh, oh!
Let’s go fly a kite (or the kite flies you)
Up to the highest height!
Let’s go fly a kite and sendit(ourselves) soaring
Up through the atmosphere
Up where the air is clear
Let’s go fly a kite! (or the kite flies you)Jokes aside – hope that kid was unharmed. Pretty scary.
David Webb
General MemberI wasn’t in the area, but happened to peek at the Crestline cam and saw the smoke. Also peeked at AJX a short time later and saw the big white X:
David Webb
General MemberIn the past month (ish), we’ve had at least one crash (with serious injury) and an approach pattern issue from non-local, non-student pilots, so that number is significant.
In the past couple of months, we have had other P2s who have broken the rules (launching unsupervised without a sign off or launching from Crestline unsupervised) – locals.
To me, that pretty clearly says that relaxing the rules even more is a horrible idea.
David Webb
General MemberBo,
I appreciate your position, and willingness to help out inexperienced pilots, but the incident rate at our site (including pilots of many different levels) would suggest that relaxing the current protocols any more is asking for trouble. Since volunteering for the board, I can’t recall a single 2 week stretch without hearing about something.
I want the instructors to agree on terms for the site sign offs because they are the ones that are going to be issuing them. The terms in the sign off are a bare minimum for the club to get behind, and they should be encouraged to add their own standards on top of that, since they are allowing those novice pilots to fly without supervision.
I just don’t see how the site would survive if any pilot could show up and put novices into the air. There would be absolutely no enforceable standard that we could maintain.
This is, at the end of the day, a P3 site. I considered it a privilege to fly here as a P2 on my own and jumping through the necessary hoops is just part of the gig – we have to do that with the other aspects of our flying (getting rated, maintaining our ushpa membership, repacking our reserves, etc), and following a few safety protocols to fly an intermediate site is no different. P2 flying options down here in San Diego are not great, but that didn’t mean I ran out to Blossom as a beginner just to get flights in since I could have.
Ultimately the end result, if we can’t all play by the rules, is that we’re going to get told new rules. That’s going to mean no unsupervised P2 flying at all, and I think that would suck.
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