Forum Replies Created
-
AuthorPosts
-
David Webb
General MemberCrestline Regionals webcam has been pointed back to its normal position.
David Webb
General MemberClub’s position is that we all should respect the closures that the forest service laid down. I don’t know if any of the gates are physically locked or if any of the roads are blocked, but they are all on forest service land as far as I can tell (correct me if I’m wrong) – that includes the roads, Marshall, Crestline, the 750, and the Devil’s Canyon Bailout.
AJX is not on forest service land, so if people want to use the training hills or kite, I don’t see any issue with that.
Hopefully this will be winding down by the weekend – I haven’t seen a blanket closure like this before, so who knows how long it will be. Everyone be sure to thank Mr. and Mrs. Gender Reveal for their hardwork. I hope they got lots of Instagram likes.
David Webb
General MemberThat looks like it’s above my personal autoignition temperature. Might need to take the weekend off to prevent this:
David Webb
General MemberLooks like the song is in need of a little re-writing:
Mr. Banks:
With tuppence for paper and strings
You can have your own set of wings
Withyour feet on the ground(nope)
You’re a bird in flight (whether you like it or not)
With your fist holding tight (really tight)
To thestring(tail) of your kiteOh, oh, oh!
Let’s go fly a kite (or the kite flies you)
Up to the highest height!
Let’s go fly a kite and sendit(ourselves) soaring
Up through the atmosphere
Up where the air is clear
Oh, let’s go fly a kite! (or the kite flies you)Bert:
When you send it flyin’ up there
All at once you’re lighter than air
You candance(flail) on the breeze
Over ‘ouses and trees (and spectators)
With your fist ‘olding tight (death grip)
To thestring(tail) of your kiteLondoners:
Oh, oh, oh!
Let’s go fly a kite (or the kite flies you)
Up to the highest height!
Let’s go fly a kite and sendit(ourselves) soaring
Up through the atmosphere
Up where the air is clear
Let’s go fly a kite! (or the kite flies you)Jokes aside – hope that kid was unharmed. Pretty scary.
David Webb
General MemberI wasn’t in the area, but happened to peek at the Crestline cam and saw the smoke. Also peeked at AJX a short time later and saw the big white X:
David Webb
General MemberIn the past month (ish), we’ve had at least one crash (with serious injury) and an approach pattern issue from non-local, non-student pilots, so that number is significant.
In the past couple of months, we have had other P2s who have broken the rules (launching unsupervised without a sign off or launching from Crestline unsupervised) – locals.
To me, that pretty clearly says that relaxing the rules even more is a horrible idea.
David Webb
General MemberBo,
I appreciate your position, and willingness to help out inexperienced pilots, but the incident rate at our site (including pilots of many different levels) would suggest that relaxing the current protocols any more is asking for trouble. Since volunteering for the board, I can’t recall a single 2 week stretch without hearing about something.
I want the instructors to agree on terms for the site sign offs because they are the ones that are going to be issuing them. The terms in the sign off are a bare minimum for the club to get behind, and they should be encouraged to add their own standards on top of that, since they are allowing those novice pilots to fly without supervision.
I just don’t see how the site would survive if any pilot could show up and put novices into the air. There would be absolutely no enforceable standard that we could maintain.
This is, at the end of the day, a P3 site. I considered it a privilege to fly here as a P2 on my own and jumping through the necessary hoops is just part of the gig – we have to do that with the other aspects of our flying (getting rated, maintaining our ushpa membership, repacking our reserves, etc), and following a few safety protocols to fly an intermediate site is no different. P2 flying options down here in San Diego are not great, but that didn’t mean I ran out to Blossom as a beginner just to get flights in since I could have.
Ultimately the end result, if we can’t all play by the rules, is that we’re going to get told new rules. That’s going to mean no unsupervised P2 flying at all, and I think that would suck.
David Webb
General MemberThe variations in the sign offs is new to me, so we’re working with the local instructors to figure out what the best approach is in regards to how P2s are evaluated as good-to-go unsupervised (i.e., if there is a flight # requirement, how many if there is, etc).
Really though, the important part of all of this is that the local instructors are the best people to be making those determinations, as they are intimately familiar with the site and make their living by teaching and evaluating new pilots. We will work to get the “letter of the law” ironed out with them so that there is no ambiguity on those requirements.
David Webb
General MemberYep – those are all great ideas, but likely would not work at AJX (just from a logistical/practical standpoint). For example, we discussed the sticker idea a while back, but a few things that might stand in the way of that working:
- Pilots not wanting to put stickers on their gear
- Someone would need to be on-hand to distribute them
- The stickers would have to be purchased, printed out, and kept on hand somewhere accessible
- Enforcement – a person would need to be on-hand to check
I had sent USHPA/RRG a request/suggestion through their local representation to find a way to push the message (maybe through USHPA instructors, publications like their magazine, etc) of the importance of doing some homework before flying a new site (reading site briefings) and not flying before an in-person site briefing. Maybe if there are others here that would request the same, that this issue would get some traction. Seems like a great article topic for USHPA mag.
David Webb
General MemberSome of these incidents – it’s been really hard to get solid details. If anyone has anything to add, please email safety@crestlinesoaring.org and I’d be happy to update the report.
David Webb
General MemberHi Mitch,
I replied to your email, but replying here as well in case anyone else had the same questions.
This was an email blast sent to all members (past and current – anyone who has signed up on the site). You are not being singled out.
Since the approach pattern and which sides PGs and HGs need to stick to when landing is a recurring issue, we’re trying to get this information in front of as many pilots that fly here as possible. Purely informational.
David Webb
General MemberRegardless of everyone’s opinions on USHPA requirements for P2s, certifications, our site ratings, or instructional protocols, I have to ask here that everyone respect the rules that are in place right now. Going rogue and choosing to put beginner pilots in the air, especially if you have no instructor rating, PASA certification, or insurance, puts pilots’ lives at risk, and jeopardizes our site, regardless if you tell them to land outside of AJX. It’s also incredibly disrespectful to the other local instructors that have jumped through all of the appropriate hoops (and I hear there are a LOT) and taken the time to follow procedure and do things properly.
If the gang here thinks there’s value in getting USHPA to re-rate some of our launches – have the discussion and try your luck (I think it’s a waste of time, but I won’t stand in anyone’s way), but please DO NOT go breaking the rules in the meantime.
I’m all for mentoring, but mentoring should be to help pilots that can already fly here on their own to improve their skills, not as a loophole to get around seeking proper instruction and USHPA ratings.
David Webb
General MemberThanks Steve! I’ll add it to the list.
David Webb
General MemberI object – Jana, Stan, and I were in the air before those pics. :)
The earlier birds!
David Webb
General Member👌👌👌👌👌👌👌
-
AuthorPosts