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Alan Coffield
General MemberHaHa,…… yes Clarity isn’t often available ….. in Cali 🤪
November 7, 2024 at 10:41 PM in reply to: Elsinore protocols update for calling the DZ if you plan to cross the Lake on XC #21257Alan Coffield
General MemberA little “community notes” for the OP. The Sailplane/Glider club (Lake Elsinore Soaring Club) has not requested these notifications. The Glider Club sub-leases the land we operate on and access to the Skylark runways from the Skydive Operation and we do report to them on the days we are operating. I am not aware of any legal requirement (FAA or otherwise) requiring foot launched gliders from Elsinore checking in with the skydive operation, but as stated, with the oftentimes increasing aerial congestion, it would be prudent to comply with their request. I would say anyone flying the Elsinore area and out to Soboba (and beyond) should have their head on a constant swivel for sky dive planes (Elsinore and Perris and even HMT airports), for sky dive planes and skydivers, power planes (especially ones following the freeways), military planes, sailplanes, hang gliders, paraglider, ultralights (and even fresh water pelicans at times😮). If you have an air band radio you should monitor 122.9 around Elsinore airport, 122.775 at Perris airport, and 123.0 around Hemet airport. Those frequencies are not for idle “chit chat”. Most sailplane pilots going XC out of Elsinore or Hemet will be on 123.3 or 123.5 once they get away from the airports. Traditionally the few HG and PG pilots that actually use radios and flew out of Elsinore have used 144.120 on the 2 meter or Ham radio frequency. Of course visiting groups of foot launched pilots may be using their own group frequencies or often frequencies from their home flying site, so it can be “hit or miss” (pardon the term) trying to reach folks on the radio. Additional fun fact: if you want a sailplane to buzz you around Elsinore look for a SGS 1-34 or a Pilatus and make it obvious that you are filming with a Go Pro 🙄. That may apply to an all white fiberglass CZ-304 glider now that Smoking Joe has one. By the way anyone interested in learning more about the Elsinore Sailplane Club, here is a link to their website:
http://www.soarelsinore.org Or http://www.lescsoaring.com
see you in the air, Alan
Alan Coffield
General MemberThis may be a novel idea; However, if certain members or the membership in general have an issue with certain prospective or current board members having a “commercial interest” while being on the board, they can vote for someone else, or openly campaign for others not to vote for them. I take a dim view on being told who I can or can not vote for. As stated earlier, a rule like this would have prevented Rob McKenzie or a similar person from serving on the board. That’s No Bueno in my book.
Alan Coffield
General MemberSo any PIREP of how the flying was at the fly in. Is it too early to ask when the next one will be?
Alan Coffield
General MemberBump: for this weekends Fly-In. I was hoping to make it with my Super Floater (air chair style glider) but that is not looking likely for this fly-in. Anyone interested in checking out or learning about the Super Floater or other air chair gliders such as the GOAT or BUG is welcome to contact me at alcoffield dot hotmail.com
see you in the air, Alan
Alan Coffield
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Alan Coffield
General Member“Build it and they will come”
Alan Coffield
General MemberHello Tom, or anyone else interested in “air chair” style gliders like the GOAT. Floyd Fronius sold his Red Goat glider a while back, and was planing to build another one. I don’t know if he has done that yet. Tom, I will text you his email address. There are a couple of CSS members that along with me, own a Super Floater glider that we keep at AJX. I also have my own Super Floater as well as a GOAT glider, and we have a partially restored BUG air chair glider. We have not been flying them much lately and I have only flown mine recently (well not that recently) at Crestline, for fly-ins, and at Torrey pines as they are better suited for ridge lift type of days, although we have, and you can, winch launch and aero tow them. I believe we could take on a new partner or two on the Super Floater at AJX and it would be great to have some “new blood” which would hopefully motivate the 4 of us to fly them more. Alan Coffield
Alan Coffield
General MemberWow, It is an honor to be one of the first on this thread to thank you (and Owen for his contributions as well) to this most generous gift. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
Thank you, Thank you and Thank You, Alan
Alan Coffield
General MemberStill have the Pilatus, and looking forward to some more “glider tag” (Jonathan) now that we are coming into our Santa Ana season with the spells of good ridge lift and occasional wave. I usually have my 2 meter radio on at 144.120 when flying Elsinore if anyone wants to say allo.
only pic I could grab with a quick look was this:

Alan Coffield
General MemberAllo, I am a long time member, but rarely fly at Crestline as it is not my “local” spot. I am a bit of a drive away, and at an age where I am Not likely to donate time, blood or sweat for helping here, but am, instead, always (almost always) willing to kick in a few dollars for things like this, or to treat the “workers bee’s” 🐝 to a pizza or “beverage” for their labor. How much are the repairs expected to total?
Alan Coffield
General MemberSounds like they are sold. Will update if that falls thru. Enjoy the fly-in, all
Alan Coffield
General MemberAllo Billie… pardon the typo “money” (auto-correct?). The airplane the family is selling is a “Mini-Mooney” or officially a “Mooney M-18 Mite”. This is a single seat power plane that looks like the more well know 4 seat, general aviation plane the Mooney M20. I believe you need to have a regular power pilots license to fly it but I guess it may be eligible for the easier to do “recreational” power pilots license. I am not involved in helping sell it, but can provide contact info for anyone interested. (I believe it needs work).
See you in the air, AlanAlan Coffield
General Membernot trying to sell the Super Floater or GOAT. Might consider partners as we did with the other Super Floater at AJX. I have some nagging injuries, so I am not sure if I can fly this Saturday, but might still come out to the Fly in …. For the food….. and o yeah for the company 🙃
Alan Coffield
General MemberAllo all, evidently Dave’s U-2 and his Fusion HG are still available. Currently located in Elsinore, but I can bring them to this Saturday’s Fly-in if some one has a SERIOUS interest in one or both. They are a bit old but in very good condition. I believe the family will take $500 each, with a good break if you buy both. (Possibly $500 for both?). What every they get is going to a “wounded Warrior” type of Veterans charity. I think they are still trying to sell his “mini-money” airplane for those with a GA ticket. I am hoping to fly my Super Floater this Saturday as well. If anyone has an interest in this or the GOAT ultra light 3 axis (hang) gliders let me know and we can chat at the Fly-in. Thanks, Alan
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