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The first set of in-flight observations, from today’s flying.
The next few days should offer classic summer (rougher air) conditions, allowing me to decide to keep it or not. But so far, I am enjoying it.
If you (anyone) is alongside in flight, it would be fun to compare glide at speed.
Got it yesterday and planning to fly it today under cloudy (hopefully no rain) skies. More flying in the following days.
I had to purchase one to test fly, so I have not decided yet if I will keep it. But I had enough hope to justify taking a small gamble. I will be collecting my observations in here, at the end of each flying day until I reach a decision.
Thanks for asking Linda, not a feel-good position, but it is appreciated.
There is still a fair chance (I am hopeful) that the finances have remained separate between the club and the shade structure, which is to be funded separately as promised, but best to see it detailed. Also, it will be good to see how much remains in funded donations towards future structure improvements, or if more fundraising is needed.
Hi Bille. Seems like Jeff was making generalistic humor (ref) in continuation of the last sentence from my post above his, not aimed at anyone in particular, but using “you” to represent anyone. And I clarified my post to state that I wasn’t referring to anyone’s fading memory in particular, just the nature of memory itself.
We all have to be careful when relying on our memories, as studies showed humans adjust memories for personal comfort or to align with a social group.
Linda’s video recording of the meeting may require (ref) to be on Facebook. I was there and don’t need to relive this fun event, but it likely can be shared publicly (public event and made obvious that at least one camera was recording). YouTube or Vimeo could be good choices, or I offer to temporarily host a video/audio file if needed.
It can provide a reference (one can point to a specific time in the video) until the official meeting minutes are posted, as well as validate the posted minutes if needed.
But of course, it is more fun to go by fading memories (not referring to anyone in particular) and argue.
Source: Recent deliveries have upgraded brake handle riser clips and brake line swivels.

Not seeing the meeting minutes yet under the normal holding place, but this is likely delayed due to the search for a new webmaster. If they are already redacted, minutes could be posted here in the meantime.
For those wondering as I did, about the state of the grass in the LZ, I asked during the meeting and Tim Ward said (summarizing and going on memory): “Waiting to reconnect the water lines, for the shade structure’s new concrete slab to be finished, to avoid doing significant/temporary work“. Sounds reasonable, and thanks to all those working on this.
Another point was reinforced: As tempting as it may be, do not land on top of the shade structure, it is not designed for that. Should we paint “DON’T DO IT” on the roof?
Thank you Owen for providing this fun location. You are wise to seek liability protection and hopefully can offset the cost: Day/Season fee or club support?
A water body, elevated platform, drinks, access… What can go wrong?
Linda said (ref) that a waiver is being prepared (not available yet), to be signed by users of the facility.
If my memory does not fail… $15/night, honor system, no hookups, 3 weeks max continuous stay.
Update: Simultaneous posting to Jana above, who clicked “Submit” faster.
Hi Norman. Gene Embree or Tim Ward are probably most knowledgeable to answer.
Thanks for participating Jai Pal, providing extra info (ref) related to being a Chapter or not, and stating (ref) the new insurance name: CGL insurance. Hopefully, we achieve clarity about the club currently being a Chapter or not (taken to a separate discussion), but of greater interest is:
- Hopefully this insurance company can be a long-term provider. A lesser issue if there are many to choose from.
- Listing the pros/cons of having selected this insurance provider over the previous, mostly in terms of instruction at the site (likely the driver for the change). I suspect regular pilot members are mostly unaffected. It may be a good decision, but it is best to also provide visibility during a change to club members.
Quote from USHPA website:
Chapters are member-controlled organizations approved by the USHPA. They are autonomous, self-governing, financially independent groups of flying enthusiasts, affiliated with the USHPA, who want to share their flying experiences with others.
Update: There is a one-way relationship… A club needs to be a Chapter to get USHPA insurance (for landowners). But a club doesn’t need USHPA insurance to be a Chapter.
Main topic here is: What are the implications of using the current site insurance, compared to one provided by USHPA?
I believe the name of the current site insurance provider was stated by Stan at the end of the 2022/7/16 board meeting. Can the current site insurance policy be posted here for review? It could be an added document under this club website. At the least, it could be good for falling asleep.
After some questioning (ref), thanks to David who obtained a confirmation (ref) from USHPA, that the club is no longer a Chapter, yet offers the ability to renew…
CSS did not renew their chapter status on the last cycle. Depending on the direction the chapter pursues moving forward, we would be willing to consider their chapter renewal if they applied.
Thanks for confirming (ref) your position Stan. I like what you told me on Saturday, it went something like: “On any issue, both sides debate by presenting arguments, and then there is the truth.“. At this point, both sides presented some arguments, maybe others have new info to add, and it can take its own course.
I do appreciate the time and energy you are putting into the club. I also like how we can debate, yet still enjoy flying and spending time together.
Thanks also to Alan and David doing investigative work, on whether or not the CSS is currently an USHPA Chapter. The detailed info I was provided (ref) makes me believe we are not, while websites may need updating.
For Jai Pal…
After re-reading Jana’s post (ref), she seemed aware that only General (not Board) meetings require 30-day notice, but was complaining instead that the board meeting we just had, was overdue. Of course, the more notice time the better.
For Jana…
During the meeting I remembered and asked your question about what by-laws are up for review. This was Stan’s answer.
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