Options 1, 5 and 6 are for open steel structures.

Option 2 is a similar open structure with steel columns and wood framing and optional observation deck above.

Options 3 and 4 are steel or concrete columns and foundations with curved wood beam and plank  roof, also fabric shade infill.  Shade fabrics for sun cover could be completed right away until there are funds to do more.  The solid roof and walls for interior space could come after, and a bathroom or 2 would be welcome.

I like option 5. With membership doing install with their collective expertise, this won’t break our bank. $34K plus more like $15K to erect. Simple, durable.

Answers to questions from anonymous above:

from Stan, and Jai Pal:

Stan:  No statements.

2. Their is nothing other than already shared.

3.  No permits are required.

4.  [Need JP to answer.]

5. No answer.

6. No answer.

7.  [Need JP to answer.]

8.  We are not required mandatory contributions.  We will build the chosen option once the funds have been amassed.  Feel free to do whatever fundraising you would like, but nothing mandatory will be imposed.

9. We will get a loan for this.  The structure will be built only when sufficient funds are amassed.  We cannot afford to pay interest, especially with out low membership rates.

Jai Pal
4. Full tied foundation pads and footings are required, and not included in the prices quoted. Piles will NOT be used due to additional Geotechnical requirements.

6. Options 3 & 4 provide 800 sq ft interior space and 2100 sq ft open covered exterior space. Currently (prior to roofs/shade flying away) there is container space of 120sq ft and approximately 400 sq ft of outdoor covered space.

7. Cost benefit analysis needed. Generally teflon coated canvas can last 25 years or more. See Haji Airport Saudi Arabia and Denver Airport.  Buy cheap and replace more often or buy expensive and replace less often.

PS. #5, Observation deck is designed and engineered for shade covering. A roof deck would afford views and additional space for pilots and the public hang out away from pilot areas below.  Code 42″ height railings go all around. Deck gives 1500 sq ft covered/shaded space at minimal cost. (36×90+20×75). 4,740 sq ft covered area for $90k =  $19 per square foot.

I like #3 and #4 – beauty, function, longevity

Regarding #1, turnkey complete, #5 & #6, each are steel kits installed on new foundations

There was typo there from the copying, I assume.

9. We will get a loan for this.  The structure will be built only when sufficient funds are amassed.  We cannot afford to pay interest, especially with out low membership rates.

This should be “We will NOT get a loan.”

Yes. I wrote a draft grant back in March and I will not submit the final grant until we have decided on the design. The FFF will MAYBE match half of what we’ve raised (contrary to a rumor that they already stated they were committed to doubling our fundraising effort) so the more we raise ourselves, the more funding from them that might be available.
“Promises” or “unnamed potential investors” don’t count towards cash raised. Only money in the bank will be counted. So far that’s around $12,000

Is option 1 a “Fully installed” version of options 5 and 6?

Thank you,

Alan

So for any practical purpose we have 3 design options in this poll:

1) Open metal structure (options 1, 5, 6).  Price something more than the $35K for material, but with a cap at 63K;

2) Steel structure with observation deck (option 2).  Price cap at $90K;

3) Curving structure with more enclosed area (options 3, 4).  Price $55K  – $58K depending on material and phasing.

If we could narrow to one design, that would be a good first step.  Price difference at this stage is only significant between the decked and non-decked options.

My 2 cents…

Thank you,

Alan