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I third Marc’s point about the turbulence. I’ve seen and felt the issue when it gets west in the afternoon, especially if it is stronger.
Related to that: As much as I’d like to connect the kitchen area to the shade structure, I’d be hesitant to do that roof-wise. The farther North we take the roof, the worse we’ll make the turbulence in the approach pattern, I suspect. Although, I’ve had more issues when exiting the wind-shadow just at time to flare than with direct turbulence. Your mileage may differ.
If we are building it from (almost) scratch, I’d suggest wiring it during the build, if possible. Outlets available would be nice. A minor thing, but a nice touch.
Even though I was the one who suggested the concrete roof, I suspect it might not be a good idea.
If we have an architect or better still, a structural engineer available, that’s the ticket.
The comment above “I’ll trust calculation over “that looks about right.”” is spot on. Even (especially?) if it is my “that looks about right.” ;-)
Hey, I remember that original shade structure!
Of course, I remember the original AJ LZ… I landed at the original on my very first out-of-lessons flight with Joe Greblo. Final check-off flight in the morning. First without instructor flight in the afternoon!
Damn, I’m getting old. ;-)
It’s been quite a year. Sigh.
A few thoughts:
- I am no expert in this area, so take this with a grain of salt
- Deliberately detachable roof seems like a bad idea due to safety and liability
- Criag’s idea of a flap seems interesting, but I suspect we’d have a hard time getting that for a decent price
- As a landlord, I can say that wooden posts often do rot near the bottom, especially when they get wet (sprinklers, anyone?) – and you cannot always tell at a glance
- Maybe a rebar-concrete roof so it won’t blow away? Maybe that’s too much money, maybe that’s overkill, maybe it would be too heavy – It is just a thought.
Thanks to all who are contributing – I’ll be doing so myself shortly after I discuss amount with my wife
I am saddened by the loss of Kenny. Sigh.
It’s good to see from the pictures that he seemed to be enjoying life before the end.
David Webb: This is the worst thread ever.
Me: But it needed to be said. Having said it, I leave.
And another 13,000 dead. I keep hearing internet trolls claim that the deaths totals are exaggerated. Actually, they are under-reported. If you look at year-over-year respiratory deaths there is a significant excess this year that interestingly, tracks with the locations of heavy Covid-19 infections. And the current administration has taken the counting away from the CDC (You know, doctors and scientists) and given it to the Department of Homeland Security (You know, spies and police.) That makes so much sense.
Mitch is an excellent hang glider pilot. Not so much a scientist or doctor. I’ll listen to the scientists and doctors, thank you very much. Remember, there’s a saying: “On the internet, nobody knows you’re a dog.” Or making up stuff, or … For medical information I never, ever, trust the internet except specific, scientifically validated web-sites. CDC, WebMD, etc. Not a random comedian or web troll.
Oh, and by the way, arguing that you have a right to expose others to a deadly disease by not wearing a mask in public? What does that say about your values? My right to be unencumbered by a mask overrides your right to live. How selfish is that? Even if the numbers were lower than reported (which they aren’t.)
I’m out of this thread.
Fly High, Fly Far, Fly Safe
In the last 9 months, over 200,000 Americans have died from Covid-19. That’s between 4 and 6 times more than typically die from the flu in a given year. And it clearly isn’t over.
There haven’t been this many deaths from an infectious disease in a single year in the US in over 100 years.
As for if it is “more deadly” than the flu or not, consider this: The vast majority of the populace has some immunity to the flu. We’ve been exposed year after year, and a significant percentage of people get the flu vaccine. And there is some carry over immunity from strain to strain. That is not true for Covid-19. It is different enough from other corona viruses that there is very little, if any, cross immunity. Thus, many more people will get it without precautions. The evidence shows that also, not just reasoning. So even if Covid-19 was only as deadly as the flu, assuming no precautions, there still would be far more deaths from it just because a higher percentage of people would get it.
Even with precautions, we’ve seen the results: 200,000+ dead in the US alone, in just 9 months. And it isn’t over yet.
When it comes to infectious diseases, I’ll listen to the scientists, epidemiologists etc., not hang glider pilots or politicians.
“The good thing about science is that it’s true whether or not you believe in it.”– Neil deGrasse Tyson
I am saddened to hear of Juanita’s passing. I remember her and Andy with great fondness. Without them, we’d have no flying site here.
Clear skies and thermals to both of them!
I’d guess that the way this works out is they will close the Forests for a week or so at a whack until something does change for the better. If you are going to close the Forests, this seems the reasonable way to do it instead of a months-long closure, or a 1-day-at-a-time closure.
But my opinion (for whatever it is worth, possibly not much) is that given the sizes of the existing fires, and the shortage of resources, I’d not hold my breath that we will be up and flying soon. But I really hope that I’m wrong. Rain anyone? ;-) A long light soaking rain.
Yoda: Patience, young Padawan.
Padawan: Patience, yea, yea, how long will that take?!?
OK. That picture/caption is funny!!!
According to SHGA’s web site, their frequency is 147.580. This does not, as far as I can tell, conform to the band plan. We/they used to use 147.555, which also didn’t conform. They switched when a repeater got in their way, I think. I have been flying Marshall for a while due to covid (long story*), so I’m not sure if what their web site says is what they are actually using.
*Short(ish) version of long story: I’m unwilling to ride up with others, or hike. I ride my eBike up after flying. Marshall takes much less time and effort to ride up than Kagel. (Although, the Towers launch at Kagel might be even easier. It does however become unsafe in my opinion if there’s any West component at all to the wind, and it was overgrown until a recent cleaning by the SHGA. Yay!) In any case, I’ve been flying both sites for years, so no reason not to spend more time at one than the other when needed. :-)
Gary Anderson is right. Flying isn’t safe. But he’s also right that you have a lot of control over how safe. Not just when to fly (that’s true too!), but how to fly, where to fly, how close to things/others to fly, etc.. Decision making matters: More so in aviation than most other things.
I’ve done some serious distance. But I’m also teased about not going some places/altitudes that other pilots routinely go. I just don’t like the odds, so I don’t do it. And I’m ok with that.
The mountain will still be there tomorrow. Make sure you are too.
Fly High – Fly Far – Fly Safe
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