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  • in reply to: Major Decision being considered by CSS. #17200

    Thank you for posting the above detailed message Jai Pal.

    I encourage the board to continue sharing their planning and options considered (about any topic) on this forum, and resume posting minutes of all meetings (board and general). Otherwise a portion of the membership will attend meetings but afterwards: Every time info is repeated it gets further from the original, amplifies concerns, feeds rumors. By sharing planning, members will appreciate more the work going on “behind the scenes” and identify areas where they can help. Win-Win on both sides (CSS board and members).

    in reply to: Major Decision being considered by CSS. #17191

    Maybe the CSS board has always been in favor of having the ranch owned by the CSS.

    If you make people fear loosing access to the ranch, then more will be willing to fund its purchase.

    Smart.

    in reply to: Major Decision being considered by CSS. #17181

    Related: Facebook comments.

    I’m not on the CSS board, nor aware of their internal discussions, so the following is from an independent perspective…

    Members should vote on any significant decision to be made. At the same time, no harm for board members to investigate options before formally presenting them.

    Len and Owen are awesome, and should not suffer a financial loss for having acquired the ranch. When the ranch is sold (it will at some point in the future):

    • Hopefully the landing approach patterns will be a pre-existing condition/risk that new owners cannot complain about.
    • Losing access to the training hill to the NE of the LZ, could be compensated by improving the shape of the SW corner of the LZ, to provide a smoother transition at the top.
    • The pond is a fun/party feature, but unrelated to flying.
    • Tractor can be stored in a locked shed after sunset to minimize risk of vandalism. Vans (more mobile than the tractor) can be parked at a secure off-site location when not in use.
    • For the club to purchase the ranch property, seems like an extreme solution to address moderate problems. The club would also have to pay yearly tax and insurance on the acquired property, in addition to house/building maintenance (likely covered if rented).

    Tim got a quote for covering the whole LZ, but we only need to cover the most used portions: Cost-Effective Surfacing of the LZ. Plus it would not last forever (expect 20 years), so best to minimize the area needed. Also, no need to duplicate the appearance/feel of grass and strands (which act like riffles to trap dust/dirt) and instead use smoother outdoor carpeting (needs proper anchoring to the ground, inverted U “staples” will not snag lines) that is easier to clean (with a leaf blower for example).

    Happy exploring of options, and hopefully a good plan for the future will be established, which is considerate of past efforts.

    in reply to: Sunday, Dec 18 2022 – Different, cold and good. #17106

    I noticed Tom making a nice low save at the base of Billboard before joining Brian (easy to spot with his high-vis harness tail) towards Strawberry.

    Congratulations to John and Dylan, having their first-ever PG flight from Regionals. Seeing new pilots express their 1st flight joy is contagious.

    in reply to: Soboba Temporary Closure: December 19-25 #17074

    Related Facebook discussion.

    “Helicopters will be working the power lines up the mountain”.

    in reply to: Sunday Soaring Highlights #16973

    Indeed, Soboba (where there are more cats than dogs in the LZ) also delivered better than expectations. Light and variable wind directions predicted, but sunshine allowed the thermal convection to dominate.

    I got 2 hours flights on both Saturday and Sunday, with respective tops of 4700′ and 5700′. It’s fun to mix up the flying sites.

    in reply to: SOLD: Ozone / Easy Bag #16932

    You assumption is correct Bob, I removed the detailed info after all items sold.

    in reply to: Marshal Weather Station #16917

    Excellent !  Thank you.

    2022/10/30 update… Not seeing the values on the Marshall graph yet.

    in reply to: Friday, Oct 28 2022 – High and Floaty the Sequel #16916

    It felt like flying in the Alps… Forward launch + Wider and smoother edged thermals.

    I will take more of that anytime. And it was great to see all the happy people.

    in reply to: Thursday, 2022/10/20 – High and Floaty #16893

    Glad to see a discussion being spawned from the incident. Always good to think of ways we can improve the response.

    About radios… There used to be (still is ?) a radio at the North end of the container with external speaker, set to the club frequency (145.555). But I doubt many pilots use/monitor that frequency in flight.

    Different idea (which I just shared with the club Safety officer and the President)…  We have a visual sign for when there is an emergency and pilots need to clear the air (White X deployed in the LZ). But how about a sign that represents “We are aware of the incident/accident, it is managed, keep flying“. I propose a large checkmark. It is better than “half an X” because pilots will not confuse it with an “X” that is halfway constructed.

    Checkmark

    We can even re-use the same material of the “White X” to form this checkmark…ReUsed_Material

    in reply to: General meeting – Saturday, October 22 2022 #16868

    I updated the agenda in the previous post: Added item # 11 (Turf restoration).

    Extra info (from club President): No remote access for the meeting, in-person only.

    But if someone wants to record the event and share, that may be appreciated by many.

    in reply to: Best Low Drag Harness for 2022 #16796

    New models added to the comparison table, including the promising Niviuk Arrow.

    With the rainy season ahead, maybe you need an Ozone Submarine Ozone_Submarine

    in reply to: Artificial Grass PG Packing Area #16744

    The topic was brought up during the last board meeting. The club endorses the “for active packing only” policy for this zone, discouraging glider parking (HG or PG).

    The root of the problem may be that a pilot feels validated to park their gear if there is no immediate need for others to use their space for packing. The combination of shade and a clean surface is inviting for parking gear. They become a trend setter showing “it is OK to park here”. Conflict happens when the space is needed.

    I suggested posting a sign that one can point to (instead of arguing), reminding offenders the purpose of the area.

    If the situation persists, a different approach may be to relocate the packing area to a less parking-friendly location: To the South of the clubhouse, half-way to the kiting area. Being more often in the sun, pilots would be less motivated to park their gear. Less dog traffic too.

    Also, thanks goes out to Gene, who is providing the artificial turf.

    in reply to: Is it smoke? Is it clouds? Why not both? #16703

    Unsatisfied with disturbing the flying at Crestline, one of those aircraft figured it would also fly by Soboba late afternoon, just because.

    in reply to: Cost-Effective Surfacing of the LZ #16696

    Thanks to Rob for detailing the relationship between the club and ranch. The owners of the XC ranch do offer significant value to the club, beyond water access.

    I am under the impression that the water supply (for growing grass) is a significant part of the monthly fee the club pays to the ranch, following a discussion with the CSS treasurer and the discussed methods for metering the water flow during the last board meeting. But if after a discussion between CSS and ranch owners, the reduction/elimination of watering the LZ would not generate significant savings for the club, may as well keep the grass and related maintenance cost and labor.

    Related topic on 2023/1/9: Major Decision being considered by CSS.