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July 18, 2022 at 10:54 AM in reply to: CSS Rumors & Board Meetings #16206

Jana Pivkova
Board Member

The name-calling and direct insults are very unbecoming and uncalled for. No matter how much you disagree with somebody, there is always a better way to deal with the situation, especially as one of our club representatives. 😧🫣😵‍💫

July 18, 2022 at 10:23 AM in reply to: Board Meeting – July 16 – Questions to be Read #16204

Jana Pivkova
Board Member

Jana, Please read your own post and acknowledge that we were holding a regular (every other month) CSS Board Meeting. There is no 30 day notice requirement. CSS members are allowed to attend.

Board meetings are for regular business and questions and/or input from Membership.

We are NOT and did to have a CSS “GENERAL MEMBERSHIP” Meeting, which DOES require a 30 day notice.

As Jerome stated, I’m aware that only the General Member meetings require a 30 day notice. It was not made crystal clear (at least to me) what kind of meeting this was supposed to be. Normally the bi-monthly Board meetings don’t get special e-mail blasts to the general members, asking them to attend. Usually the Board officers simply meet at the LZ once every two months and discuss their chosen agenda, while general members can sit nearby and listen to what’s being discussed, and anyone can pipe in if they want to add something to the conversation. We then get the minutes of that meeting posted to the website for all to see, read & discuss.
They can be found here: Meeting Agendas & Minutes

Edit: Screenshot of the e-mail blast that was a bit confusing, but now is cleared up. I look forward to reading the minutes, as I was unable to attend on Saturday.

July 17, 2022 at 10:48 AM in reply to: Blue insulated bottle lost at Marshall #16195

Jana Pivkova
Board Member

Can’t take credit for finding it. 😄 Mark stashed it in a safe place for you. Stephen will tell you where.

July 15, 2022 at 4:46 PM in reply to: CSS Rumors & Board Meetings #16168

Jana Pivkova
Board Member

Some of us will not be able to attend the meeting, therefore it would be nice to discuss it in here as well. Some of our members are out of State.

It’s good to be able to read the replies back on this forum and gain a better understanding, vs. getting a couple of minutes to speak and try to figure out what was said in reply.

Since a 30 day notice for the meeting was not given, some of us have made plans prior to the scheduled meeting.

July 15, 2022 at 4:02 PM in reply to: CSS Rumors & Board Meetings #16163

Jana Pivkova
Board Member

But visiting pilots don’t have USHPA insurance so the will use the CSS insurance by becoming a member of the club and signing our waiver.

What do you mean visiting pilots don’t have USHPA insurance? Are we now accepting non-USHPA rated pilots at our site? Are you referring to pilots from other parts of the world who have legit IPPI ratings and get the temporary insurance from USHPA when flying at our club? Please clear this up.

July 14, 2022 at 7:41 PM in reply to: Blue insulated bottle lost at Marshall #16147

Jana Pivkova
Board Member

It’s at the LZ.

July 14, 2022 at 4:34 PM in reply to: Board Meeting – July 16 – Questions to be Read #16146

Jana Pivkova
Board Member

I don’t want to be confrontational or rude, but I don’t know why it’s so difficult to understand the part where a “Board” officer meeting happens every other month with the minutes posted on this website after the fact, and the “General Member” meeting that happens twice a year, for which there should be a 30 day notice to all members prior. I tried to explain it a couple of different times now. It’s right there in the By Laws. 🤷‍♀️ That’s the way every Board has done it over the years, but somehow this year’s Board decided it’s not important? 😶😵‍💫 Can you guys please just try to follow the rules on this? 🙏

P.S. What By Laws are you guys looking to change?

July 11, 2022 at 1:00 PM in reply to: AUA ratings #16108

Jana Pivkova
Board Member

AUA Pilot Training

Thanks for putting that list together Jerome. In your “Reasons to vote Yes on AUA” list you ask: “No need to file accident reports?”

In the above AUA link it says:

“6) For the purpose of improved safety, all accidents and incidents shall be submitted in writing, with as much detail as possible, to the AUA Safety Officer for that Category. NOTE: All information in these reports will remain completely confidential to protect all parties concerned. Once appropriately reviewed, originals are returned or destroyed. They will never be disclosed. AUA needs enough information to isolate each incident to prevent multiple reports of a single incident, i.e. date and time it occurred, type of craft, where, etc…….. and enough information to help determine what happened to identify possible remedies.
Date and Time and/or location, are our primary tracking information.”

So it seems the AUA also requires the reporting of incidents and accidents.

July 5, 2022 at 3:03 PM in reply to: CSS Rumors & Board Meetings #16029

Jana Pivkova
Board Member

Yes. We’re trying to add to the bylaws of the club to accept other forms of rating system such as USHPA, IPPI, FAI and AUA.

It seems to me that it is a big conflict of interest to serve on the CSS board, change our By Laws AND to be pushing for a new ratings system to be accepted by the club, all by the same people who are making plans to run the AUA in the near, or foreseeable future. You didn’t want a USHPA rep on the Board, because you felt it was a conflict of interest. This, in my opinion, is also a very big conflict of interest, and maybe more so.

I hope I answered your questions and concerns and I’m glad that you are helping other members understand what the board of CSS is working for.

I don’t feel that my question above has been addressed. I’m asking what happens if (for example) a pilot, or an instructor loses his/her USHPA ratings due to one reason or another, such as having numerous complaints against them. Does that instructor retain their AUA instructor ratings? Do they get to continue to teach and issue AUA ratings even though they’ve lost their USHPA instructor ratings? If they’re not already an AUA member, will they be able to join and continue to wreak havoc on our site (assuming that’s what they’ve lost their ratings for)? My question includes tandem instructors. How does it protect our club from instructors and pilots who have been deemed unfit by USHPA to continue to teach and/or fly? Hypothetically if I get kicked out of one organization, do I just get my ratings with the other guys and I can continue on my path of destruction at AJX?

AND THE NEXT MEETING IS NOW OFFICIAL FOR SATURDAY THE 16th 11:00 AM AT THE LANDING ZONE.

I’m glad that a “General” Member meeting has been scheduled, but the Board members still need to have a “Board” meeting among yourselves every other month, for which then the minutes need to be posted for all to see. That meeting is overdue.

I realize that Slack has allowed the CSS Board members to communicate about issues on a daily basis, but these chats are not available to us regular members! This is why you guys need to discuss a list of issues semi-publicly every other month.

It used to be that anyone could attend and listen in on the Board meetings at the LZ. That changed when Covid hit and we were forced to have them on Zoom. Please follow the By Laws. Stan knows the procedure. He’s had to attend those meetings for two years now.

July 5, 2022 at 9:06 AM in reply to: CSS Rumors & Board Meetings #16019

Jana Pivkova
Board Member

I have a question about a hypothetical scenario. Let’s say that sometime in the future the club votes to accept AUA ratings the same way we accept USHPA ratings now. Lack of insurance (from AUA) aside, let’s say that a pilot or instructor loses his USHPA ratings for one reason or another, but he/she is still a member of the AUA. Will that pilot or instructor be allowed to continue to fly or teach at AJX? What if that pilot or instructor loses their USHPA ratings and is not an AUA member? Will they be allowed to join the AUA and continue to fly and/or instruct at AJX as before? How is that going to work?

July 2, 2022 at 2:21 PM in reply to: CSS Rumors & Board Meetings #15988

Jana Pivkova
Board Member

Stan, Jaipal and I took a trip to AUA headquarters to ask questions about insurance, FAA interaction, rating system, pilot protection from law suites, expansion AUA services to our club members and how that would work.

Can you please elaborate on this? Do they provide insurance to pilot members? How does their ratings system work? What protection do they offer pilots and/or instructors against lawsuits? What services do they offer to the club?

If anyone has questions, keeping the discussion in this thread seems like a good idea.

July 2, 2022 at 11:55 AM in reply to: CSS Rumors & Board Meetings #15984

Jana Pivkova
Board Member

Additionally, there have not been any Board meetings since April because no Board decisions have been made since.

We’ve been holding board meetings once every two months regardless of whether or not we’ve had big decisions to make. You guys can talk about the shade structure progress, what the next steps may be, how far we are with it, how much we still need to raise to complete it, how the club is doing financially, about the website & CSS app(?), the web cams we all see mounted on the shade structure but can’t view, and it looks like the camping plans are also moving forward in a direction I personally haven’t heard much about. I see Gene moving a lot of dirt around so I know it’s expanding the parking lot, but what’s the end game? I’m not opposed to it, I just want to hear more details. I’m sure I’m not the only one who’d like to know. It’s nice to see that map drawing to give us an idea.

Schedule the meeting, get a list of things to discuss (even if there’s not too much to talk about) and post the minutes, like we’ve always done. That way we stick to our By Laws like we’re supposed to.

As for secrets and a new ratings…

The Board has not been planning or considering getting out of USHPA, changing the rating system, or obtaining another rating provider.

While the above statement may be true (that the Board as a whole is not pursuing these avenues, or looking to get out of USHPA), what about individuals currently on the Board becoming a ratings provider via AUA, or taking it over?

Personally I have no objections to alternatives for ratings (as long as they have the same or better standards as current providers), Europe has a couple of different ratings providers, it’s never good for anyone to have a monopoly on anything, I’m just surprised I’m hearing about it now. I definitely want to make sure that all CSS pilots & instructors maintain the ability to receive and issue USHPA ratings at AJX, regardless of whether another ratings system comes in the future, because for now that is the accepted standard for most regulated flying sites.

And lastly, since I’ve heard it said that a USHPA rep serving on the CSS Board would be a conflict of interest, same would be true for a AUA rep (assuming one or more of you eventually do end up in charge of running the AUA). Just something to keep in mind if/when that happens for one, or more of you.

July 1, 2022 at 11:58 AM in reply to: CSS Rumors & Board Meetings #15972

Jana Pivkova
Board Member

Thanks Jerome,…

and yes, the CSS Board members are supposed to meet once every two months, which last happened on April 16th, 2022. It’s been more than two months since the last meeting.

Only the General Membership meetings happen twice a year.

It’s important for our club officers to stick to our By Laws, because we are a non-profit org and it could jeopardize our status. If I’m wrong, please correct me and show me the way.

Below are screen shots of our By Laws stating what meetings need to happen when:

June 27, 2022 at 11:58 PM in reply to: Member Meeting #15932

Jana Pivkova
Board Member

The last board meeting took place April 16th, 2022. I posted the minutes for that one a week or two later. According to the By Laws, a board meeting should take place every other month and the minutes should be posted for everyone to see. If a board meeting did take place this month (and it’s now June 27th), then the minutes should follow soonish?

April 18, 2022 at 1:26 PM in reply to: 4/2/2022 Accident #14944

Jana Pivkova
Board Member

Our home page has this message for all visiting pilots:

If they take the time to read it, they should understand our club policy for P2/T2 pilots.
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