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Friday 11:25am: TFR (same size) still in effect West of Devil Canyon, but no obvious smoke at this time, when looking from Little Mountain.
All items have been sold.
Thanks to all who purchased and those who helped share the inventory.
That was fast: Sold everything, minus 1 wing…
Element 3 Large 95-125 kg (209-276 lb). So, for pilot weight of 167-234 lb (76-106 kg) considering 42 lb gear. It is NEW. Ideal for a new pilot or student, similar performance to a Mojo 5, but with more robust materials.
Thanks for the kind words Bille.
I am gradually reducing the services I offer, starting Oct 18 will still offer: Equipment sales at a discount, reserve repacking, theory lessons, kiting lessons, mentoring. More info here.
This is a good thing for me, and I will get more time to fly.
About half the items have sold, I have updated the list of remaining items, follow same link above.
Thanks for the info Mark and Jai Pal. I’m more used to paraglider specs than HVAC, but gather that each of the unit’s outdoor compressor will consume 9.3 A at startup (LRA: Locked Rotor Amps) and 7.2 A after during use (RLA: Rated Load Amps), with a fan adding 0.5 A. If operating with 115 V, we are looking at about 886 W (= 115 V x 7.2+0.5 A) continuous for each outdoor unit. Not sure how much the indoor unit fan consumes, but guessing we are around 1000 W for each unit (outdoor+indoor). So around 2000 W total for 2 A/C units.
Must learn to “go with the flow” and worry less. Knowing we have experts in each field helps trusting this project is in good hands.
Hi Jai Pal, you wrote… “run 2 -12,000 A/C-heat units for about 2/3 of the year. 12 amps startup and 1+ amps running amps.”
Maybe there is a much higher voltage these A/C units will run on, but if it is on 120 V, each would consume 120 W, which is about 2 old fashioned 60 W lightbulbs. 240 W if the 1 Amp is on a 220-240 V circuit. Hard to imagine A/C units being so efficient as not consuming more than a few incandescent light bulbs. This reference indicates that a single 12,000 BTU A/C on 115 V consumes 13 Amps, or 1495 Watts, which is more believable , about the same as a small hairdryer.
Since solar panels is part of your profession, I feel bad for asking but… Are you sure the power consumption of those A/C units is not at least an order of magnitude more? Maybe you just made a typo when writing “1+ amps running amps” and meant to write “10 amps running amps”.
Please tell me I worry for nothing and all will be fine. :-) Thank you for being a big part of this project.
Thank you Jai Pal, for answering my question about solar panel quantity/surface. Info like this is helpful.
You also bring up a good point that options 3 & 4 are near identical, which increases the percentage of voters who chose a similar design.
This conversation and sharing of details is good.
An idea for more people to help financially… Add the possibility to pre-pay 5-10 years of membership to temporarily boost club funds?
Option 3 won with 28% of the votes, which also means that 72% of voters preferred doing something else.
Before we commit funds to a given path and permanently alter existing work (like the kitchen), can we have a quick consolidation vote in proceeding with this specific path, simply asking CSS members…
Do you want to proceed with option 3, or return to considering all options (including what should be on the LZ like shade alone and/or storage) ?
Thank you for considering this. From what I heard in the LZ yesterday, this would help appease many. The only downside of this extra vote is a short pause, but we could afterwards proceed with greater unity.
Hi Jai Pal, today Tim shed light on the master plan… That the inside of the building could be air conditioned and that power be drawn from solar panels you are donating. Sounds like a possible solution and thank you for your generous donation to the club !
What is your calculation for how much solar panel surface is needed to cool the enclosed volume on a 100+ °F day? Are we trying to cool the air for people staying inside (why stay inside?), or just equipment not to overheat?
I have the chips covered !
Update: Just scheduled a new student Sat-Mon, so unable to attend the party so I can prepare for the next day’s early start. But the chips have been purchased and will be delivered, happy 4th of July! Soon I will be more (not completely) retired, and have a more predictable schedule. :-)
Thank you Jai Pal. Aside from the pleasing esthetics, why would we want so much glass?
From the inside, it would provide an outside view if people spent time there, but unless there is climate control (ongoing cost), being hotter inside would prevent staying there during summer (not a classroom). Natural light during daytime will avoid turning on a light, but we still need lighting for nighttime.
From the outside, it removes a sense of privacy for those inside, which can be good for security. But it also reveals the contents and may entice looters to return, if anything of value is visible.
How about… Minimize the use of glass, only have some high (above eye level) windows.
Pros: Light can enter during daytime. Not as easy for looters to look inside. Less window cleaning. Reduced exposure to vandalism (fragile windows). Less expensive.
Cons: Not as pretty.
Still wondering if combining location for storage and shade-for-people is effective. Having club item storage off the LZ surface would… Provide a greater percentage of usable shade area for people under a given roof size, and allow more airflow under the roof to minimize downwind turbulence. Is it too late to review the concept, are we locked in at this point?
Thanks Jai Pal. Since vandalism (someone throwing a rock) can happen, do you think tempered glass is sufficient? How much more $ for laminated glass as used by storefronts?
Yes there are concerns: Funding amount and time, investing on land not owned by the club, construction time, possible downwind turbulence. But…
Aside from donating, the next best thing we can do is be optimistic and supportive of those working on the project. It is great to have professionals donating their time, effort and equipment like Jai Pal Khalsa, Dan Deweese, Jim Borgman, GoldenBridge. Thank you!
In the meantime, it is fun to see our dysfunctional “family” of pilots huddle together under a small shade area. :-)
Question for Jai Pal… Looking at the concept drawing, there seems to be glass doors/walls. Will these be shatter-proof glass or plastic?
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