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Just saw this, I have almost every tool known to man if something is needed, and I can make/repair small parts or fittings, etc with my machines. if needed.
While I am sure it is disappointing to the campers to be told to pack up, it looks like our new board is actually acting in the best interests of the club. Thanks to Ed, Jana, and the other board members for their attention to detail.
Gary, I was waiting to see if a board member would answer, but since no answer seems forthcoming here is a piece of information.
4-6-8 (?) weeks ago, the majority owner of the CCR, I would assume that would be an accurate description of him, sent an email to Stan and the board that he, the CCR owner, had no interest in renegotiating any aspect of the agreement and the matter was closed as far as he was concerned.
Stan knows this fact yet he has not mentioned it at all. I did not want to be the one who brought this up because I accidentally deleted the email so I cannot copy it here, but based on that email I would say the board knows where the CCR ranch stands on our current agreement.
As former board member maybe I have some insight. I do know that on a decision that could ruin the landing field forever the education time, ie., the time to think about what we are doing, should be at least 6 months. Frequently having time to mull over a problem allows one greater clarity in the solution. The vote as proposed by our current president of 4 choices is obvious to anyone who has experience in polling is designed to produce a negative result, and has the effect that 25% of the club can destroy the LZ forever for the remaining members of the club. Whenever there is a vote with more than two choices if there is no winner with more than 50% of the vote the top two choices are taken and then there is another vote. That is the proper way that multiple choice votes are handled. Why has our president not stated that this is the way the election will be held?
To allow 25% of the membership, who may have an agenda, to decide for the remaining 75% of the members is wrong and does not pass any sort of common sense test. I commented to our current president that Tim was elected as site coordinator. If Tim says that we need to continue the water that should be the end of the discussion. We voted him in to make decisions for us for the direction of the LZ. The fact that our current president seemingly wants to override our elected site coordinator is more of an indication of the president trying to be a dictator, rather than any form of good governance.
There was a vote in 2019 to pay the CCR for the site access and water. While it was not long term inclusive, for the current president and VP to state that there never was a vote by the membership on the CCR arrangement is not true. This vote was forgotten about by everyone at the recent meeting, but once it was remembered why has the board not put out the information that the statement that “there never was a vote by the membership on paying the CCR” is not true and the current situation is more nuanced and maybe deserves some more long term thought, rather than rushing through a vote that is designed to produce a desired result.
Obviously stopping the water without having plan to replace the water is a ludicrous. No rational person would do that. I think Luke and Tim are the voices of reason here and their advice should be heeded. I will be do so.
Travel up here is very difficult still. Roads that are clear are only one lane wide. Almost was head oned yesterday by a SOCAL gas truck while I was creeping through a snow canyon on my street uphill and he was driving way too fast downhill. This is what 10 feet of snow looks like.
Completely calm at Lake Arrowhead. Explain that…..
I saw his collapse and the reserve throw. I was surprised how long the reserve kept him aloft. After he was on the ground I and 2 or 3 other HG pilots observed that he was moving and packing up his parachutes. I thought if he made it to the ditch just north he could walk to the water tank and the paved road. However, from altitude one has no idea how tough the vegetation is. I landed an hour later, was informed that contact had been made.
I don’t know why the PG collapsed, but it would be informative if he wrote a description of what happened to possibly help a future pilot. Additionally, relative to the 8700 ft altitude mention, remember the jets cross Crestline between 8000 and 9000 in VMC going into Ontario. Above 8000 you are in the same airspace as transport category airplanes going over 250 mph that can’t see you.
Boy that is an amusing bot response….
My rack is available, as I now live here and am not paying storage for the first time in my hanggliding life. Bin 4, front right, 7, I think.
Ivan, I mentioned that it is for 6 foot, 170-190 pounds, and you say that you are 5′ 8″ and 230 pounds. Not really a good prospect for you. This is a very form fitting harness.
We moved the first UHaul 26 footer last week, leaving tomorrow with the second 26 footer. Machines to be moved next. Anyone interested in helping move multi-1000 lb machines…..?
John
Thanks to Tim for actually having grass to mow.
“After he recovers we should talk to him to find out where the communications failed. What additional/different words on the website would have given him the information he needed to make the decision to call one of the CSS instructors before flying.”
I see the post above was at 10:38 AM. Probably had just gotten up and was still in a fog having worked til 1:00 or so the previous night. Sorry for the poor usage.
I won’t be there on the 18th. Big news in my world is I am moving to Lake Arrowhead. We will start moving April 26. Anyone want to help me move my machine shop? I will have the harness there after the first moving trip on the 26th.
Not presuming anything. Simply interested in the possibility that something could have been different that would have prevented the accident, or maybe prevent one in the future. Not saying that the club or website was in the wrong. Just asking what might have produced a different outcome.
After he recovers we should talk to him to find out where the club failed with its communications. What could we have done better with our website that would have given him the information he needed to have made the decision to call one of the CSS instructors before flying.
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